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mngmt mole 29th Oct 2020 01:20

I think that concern will be least of your worries Fatbus...

mngmt mole 29th Oct 2020 03:14

Word has it that 98% signed over before yesterday's deadline. Yes....almost everyone. I think we can officially put a fork in any hopes of reviving the career of "pilot" at CX.

Farman Biplane 29th Oct 2020 04:16

who cares?
You can still resign on current COS until 04Nov.

SaulGoodman 29th Oct 2020 06:04


Originally Posted by fly1981 (Post 10913469)
Airlines around the world put low time local pilots in the left seat, cx is no different.

3000 hrs short haul is a different game to 3000 hrs long haul.

fly1981 29th Oct 2020 06:14

Firstly cx now has 320’s.... secondly, having done both, I can assure you certain destinations in China are a 100 times more difficult than any long haul I have ever done. My long haul days were operated for an Asian airline( rated one of the safest airlines in the world) a local full function captain had around 100 landings in his total career before he got ungraded. When you flying long haul, Total hours means nothing, be because you acrue them very quickly as a result of sector time, 3000 hrs is nothing in the long haul division, agreed, however, the local ka pilots that were let go, 3000 hrs is a substantial amount of experience, all sectors are short, mostly 3 a day, to some very tricky destinations. They are very capable.

icemankk2001 29th Oct 2020 06:30

only 98% signed ? I was hoping for 99.5% hahahaha. Congrats all.

Dragon Pacific 29th Oct 2020 06:34

It will be very much interesting to see how many resign and walk away.

mngmt mole 29th Oct 2020 12:53

When the reality sinks in, I suspect many will conclude it's no longer viable staying in HK. With a family it will be almost impossible to not be upside down each month. Add in the impossibility of commuting (never mind the cost) and you quickly recognise that you are going backwards each month. I predict the resignations will begin to flow in at an ever increasing rate in the coming months. As an expat airline, CX is finished.

rhoshamboe 29th Oct 2020 12:55

That's what they want and are counting on.

mngmt mole 29th Oct 2020 13:06

I suspect you are correct.

icemankk2001 29th Oct 2020 13:22

please dont just talk only... act on it. why wait for few months to resign? why wait to be moving backwards each month ? the queue is long waiting outside the door. come on..... lets do it

cabbages 29th Oct 2020 13:43

Why all the vitriol 'Iceman'? You don't fly for CX. You never have and never will.

icemankk2001 29th Oct 2020 13:55

Of course nobody can get into CX... because all CX pilots signing the new COS.... or almost all... duh.....

MENELAUS 29th Oct 2020 14:52

English not your strong point Iceman ?

LLLQNH 29th Oct 2020 15:52


Originally Posted by Dragon Pacific (Post 10914027)
It will be very much interesting to see how many resign and walk away.

I would be incredibly surprised if hardly any didn't sign, and ended up walking away! Those who were close to retirement took the ERS and went early already! People aren't stupid despite all the chest thumping on here, they know that CX on Cos18 is the way it will be until they find a new job elsewhere! If that's going to be a flying job then it wont be for 2-3 years! I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news but I just don't see any jobs being backfilled for any guys on the street at the moment. If anything it appears as though we are still over staffed.

cannot 29th Oct 2020 18:22

Under current conditions I don’t blame anyone for signing , it gives them a breathing space during the pandemic . Once things pick up I can see a large number of people finding other jobs in their home countries

Dilbert68 30th Oct 2020 01:45

Exactly what he said. Most of us realize that there is no future here, when the world reopens, the exodus will begin. I would not be surprised if CX is woefully short of pilots in two years time. I guess that is a gamble they are willing to take.

Koan 30th Oct 2020 01:55

Unless most resign there is no gamble they will have enough crew as best case scenario traffic in two years will be a fraction of 2019 levels


Avinthenews 30th Oct 2020 02:00

In two years, COS18 - RA55. Would you like an extension?

Oddball77 30th Oct 2020 02:18


Originally Posted by SaulGoodman (Post 10914015)
3000 hrs short haul is a different game to 3000 hrs long haul.

How is it any different?


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