Originally Posted by michigan j
(Post 10814018)
Mind expanding on how this is good news for CX and other airlines?
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Originally Posted by ozbiggles
(Post 10813855)
Australian citizens can fly into the country. There has NEVER been any restriction on that.
The overseas students bring in income and keep the universities working. The students will have to do 14 days quarantine. Let go of your racism and make some room for some common sense and perhaps a few seconds of research. We don't have an education industry, we have a path to PR Visa industry, take that away and see how many students come here for our world class education. The universities have prostituted themselves on foreign students to the point they'd have difficulty surviving without them, VCs on 1.5m salaries while the lecturers and tutors are being starved. Quarantine paid for by the tax payer, this is the new (not so quite new) Australian economy; Ticket clipping with the profits privatised and losses socialised. Now RE industry needs them, though up until CV19 we were told that Chinese buyers didn't have any impact on house prices or rents, now they're telling us property is dead without them; let it die! |
Originally Posted by ozbiggles
(Post 10814958)
WA will crack quickly once they start missing out on domestic tourism and international student money. The only thing holding it back now is Victoria is just creating enough bad press to give him something to hold onto his PR but the dollars will trump it soon.
WA has a very low number of foreign students. Edit: Btw, I think it's highly likely WA would have more people leaving the state than coming in. |
In 5 years we will look back at this fiasco and wonder how did world get this so wrong. Our leaders have systemically over-reacted and cocked it up. They have ruined a thousand times more lives than this virus could ever. But nary a whisper about fixing things that kill hundreds of thousands of people year in, year out. Obesity, diabetes, smoking, alcohol, drugs, HIV/AIDS. If closing down the worlds economy is the reaction to a sniffle (which Coronavirus really is), imagine if Ebola got out.
In Australia we have 3 people in ICU for the whole of Australia. This has been a farce from day one. Already, Influenza has killed 4x the amount of people but it doesn't even rate a mention, let alone a lockdown. The world has lost its collective mind. |
I did
2017 50,000 International students. 1.9 Billion dollars. Source WA Gov website Sounds like more than ‘Not many’ to me. More people leaving than coming in...you might suppose a few of them would book through WA travel agents, buy a bag and some nice new clothes to travel from a WA shop, catch a WA taxi, park a car at the WA airport, buy meals at the WA airport, a book at the newsagent there, be checked in by a lovely WA employee of their airline as the WA bag handler drop kicks their bag, whilst the WA engineer checks their aircraft after being refuelled by the WA refueller just before being cleared for takeoff by the WA based tower controller...Or none of this so the premier can keep his ratings high as employment soars. |
Originally Posted by ozbiggles
(Post 10815157)
I did
2017 50,000 International students. 1.9 Billion dollars. Source WA Gov website Sounds like more than ‘Not many’ to me. More people leaving than coming in...you might suppose a few of them would book through WA travel agents, buy a bag and some nice new clothes to travel from a WA shop, catch a WA taxi, park a car at the WA airport, buy meals at the WA airport, a book at the newsagent there, be checked in by a lovely WA employee of their airline as the WA bag handler drop kicks their bag, whilst the WA engineer checks their aircraft after being refuelled by the WA refueller just before being cleared for takeoff by the WA based tower controller...Or none of this so the premier can keep his ratings high as employment soars. 37,000 and that includes 1,700 at non uni higher ed. Your only interest is your own. |
Originally Posted by nomorecatering
(Post 10815150)
In 5 years we will look back at this fiasco and wonder how did world get this so wrong. Our leaders have systemically over-reacted and cocked it up. They have ruined a thousand times more lives than this virus could ever. But nary a whisper about fixing things that kill hundreds of thousands of people year in, year out. Obesity, diabetes, smoking, alcohol, drugs, HIV/AIDS. If closing down the worlds economy is the reaction to a sniffle (which Coronavirus really is), imagine if Ebola got out.
In Australia we have 3 people in ICU for the whole of Australia. This has been a farce from day one. Already, Influenza has killed 4x the amount of people but it doesn't even rate a mention, let alone a lockdown. The world has lost its collective mind. |
Ex, when we assume...you know the rest. What interest do I have in this?
If you don’t agree with the figures I have you best take it up with the WA Gov because they are from their website. |
Originally Posted by ozbiggles
(Post 10815184)
Ex, when we assume...you know the rest. What interest do I have in this?
If you don’t agree with the figures I have you best take it up with the WA Gov because they are from their website. |
So you will believe the WA government that the borders should stay shut against the Federal governments advice but you won’t believe the WA governments figure on how much all the international students contribute to the economy?
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Originally Posted by ozbiggles
(Post 10815184)
If you don’t agree with the figures I have you best take it up with the WA Gov because they are from their website.
The State Government reversed its position on the RSMS late last year, but the epidemic has put paid to any recovery in numbers. |
Buzz, that’s not fair introducing well researched up to date facts into a debate on Pprune!!!!!
Still 39,000 students would add to the economy but there is a lot of work to be done and that is only a small part. I agree with keeping the international borders shut for a long time yet. Initially the state borders too but the pendulum needs to swing back to getting the country working again and we have the resources to deal with any implications from that IMHO. The shutting the borders now is all about premiers and their ratings not the medical advice they are getting. |
Originally Posted by Mill Worker
(Post 10814000)
1. This is good news. The virus can't swim here so the fewer people arriving the better.
https://www.intrafish.com/coronaviru...ina/2-1-746616 |
Originally Posted by angryrat
(Post 10815262)
Ah the irony of China wanting to investigate Norwegian fish plants to find the origin of this latest outbreak :rolleyes:
Agreed scandalous. That well known home of low hygiene and ethical standards, Scandinavia. |
Originally Posted by ozbiggles
(Post 10815220)
The shutting the borders now is all about premiers and their ratings not the medical advice they are getting.
Statement from WA Chief Health Officer: COVID-19 restrictions in Western Australia Should Australian states ditch coronavirus border restrictions? Even medical experts can't agree on that That advice was given a month ago and since then there's been no indication he has changed his position. Nevertheless, the WA Government is under a lot of pressure to make an announcement to provide clarity for affected businesses: WA in 'advanced stages' of discussions to reopen border as Minister admits the community wants clarity |
Originally Posted by Mill Worker
(Post 10814000)
1. This is good news. The virus can't swim here so the fewer people arriving the better.
2. The taxpayer is still funding 14 days in quarantine. This is ridiculous. If you have a legitimate reason to enter the country you should fully fund it. There was ample time to come back prior to these restrictions being put in place. 3. Australia has largely escaped this problem because of border restrictions. |
Originally Posted by rmcdonal
(Post 10815034)
Quarantine is there to protect the Australian public, not those returning to Australia, so why should the travellers pay for your safety? Prisoners don't pay for their jail.
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ExfocCX, that running table is misleading, leaving out the fourteen or so main reasons people die every year. This table for 2017 is indicative:
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....981df30089.png |
Originally Posted by main_dog
(Post 10815867)
ExfocCX, that running table is misleading, leaving out the fourteen or so main reasons people die every year. This table for 2017 is indicative:
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....981df30089.png I found it interesting to see at what point Covid 19 passed regular influenza if nothing else. |
Dept. of Home Affairs exemption guidance
Arriving is no issue, other than the 14 days iso. Based on the Dept. of Home Affairs, as a Citizen 'ordinarily resident in a country other than Australia', I'm not required to request an exemption to leave.
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....48e8c6b2d6.png Anyone have an experience in leaving Oz in the past couple of months as a passenger? Cheers. |
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