HK Express is gearing up for a larger future role for short haul china & SE asia ops out of hk. With KA diverting some of its A320 Neo’s to hke, we can all see the writing is on the ( lavatory) wall for KA.
HKE recruitment will chance their arm, and offer lower T&Cs than the incumbents, and that includes HKA, who were the poor pilots of hk. In the current climate, I would expect that they will have an abundance of qualified crews applying, many from europe. This will continue for the foreseeable future, as the true effects of Covid19 are felt throughout the industry. HKE are cash rich. They will survive and expand. They need crews. Better to earn than not. The real concern will be Cathay Dragon, with their antiquated crewing COS , that is high cost for lower productivity. They are stifled by unionisation, multi layered management and an ageing workforce. It would be hilareous to see guys leaving ka to go to hke. Even mentioning this 2 years ago would be net with a what the f#$# are you talking about. The new normal? |
Originally Posted by Krone
(Post 10775417)
HK Express is gearing up for a larger future role for short haul china & SE asia ops out of hk. With KA diverting some of its A320 Neo’s to hke, we can all see the writing is on the ( lavatory) wall for KA.
HKE recruitment will chance their arm, and offer lower T&Cs than the incumbents, and that includes HKA, who were the poor pilots of hk. In the current climate, I would expect that they will have an abundance of qualified crews applying, many from europe. This will continue for the foreseeable future, as the true effects of Covid19 are felt throughout the industry. HKE are cash rich. They will survive and expand. They need crews. Better to earn than not. The real concern will be Cathay Dragon, with their antiquated crewing COS , that is high cost for lower productivity. They are stifled by unionisation, multi layered management and an ageing workforce. It would be hilareous to see guys leaving ka to go to hke. Even mentioning this 2 years ago would be net with a what the f#$# are you talking about. The new normal? |
Originally Posted by Krone
(Post 10775417)
HKE are cash rich. ..................The real concern will be Cathay Dragon, with their antiquated crewing COS , that is high cost for lower productivity. They are stifled by unionisation, multi layered management and an ageing workforce. KA productivity is a metric of its operating environment. Stifled by unionisation? We haven't been in contract compliance for a decade. Ageing workforce? You seem to oddly be dissing your own having sat pretty due old guys and stifling unionism. Perhaps its all coming crashing down, for the most part I'm thankful of folks before me, who preserved and improved COS and pushed back on a wide array of safety issues and maintained good standards. |
Cash rich! You are so funny Krone. HKE’s flight cancellations are now until 30th June and no doubt will go well beyond that too.
You may not have noticed but we all have the same boss. Massive changes are about to happen and we are all in the same sinking boat. We’ll all be on a new common CoS. Time to adjust to the “new normal” as they say. |
Originally Posted by Krone
(Post 10775417)
HK Express is gearing up for a larger future role for short haul china & SE asia ops out of hk. With KA diverting some of its A320 Neo’s to hke, we can all see the writing is on the ( lavatory) wall for KA.
HKE recruitment will chance their arm, and offer lower T&Cs than the incumbents, and that includes HKA, who were the poor pilots of hk. In the current climate, I would expect that they will have an abundance of qualified crews applying, many from europe. This will continue for the foreseeable future, as the true effects of Covid19 are felt throughout the industry. HKE are cash rich. They will survive and expand. They need crews. Better to earn than not. The real concern will be Cathay Dragon, with their antiquated crewing COS , that is high cost for lower productivity. They are stifled by unionisation, multi layered management and an ageing workforce. It would be hilareous to see guys leaving ka to go to hke. Even mentioning this 2 years ago would be net with a what the f#$# are you talking about. The new normal? |
Post Covid19, when the dust begins to settle, HKE’s LCC model is going to be the way forward, with cash strapped pax, who still want to get away. HKE will be expanded unfortunately, probably at the expense of KA.
It won’t just be Japan but all across China and South East Asia. I genuinely feel for all fellow pilots that are going to have a life change from all this.But WRT HKE I don’t subscribe to the doomsday scenario, because we represent where CX want to take the rest of you. |
Cathay Express
Looks like it’s happening. More news this pm. Hang on to your hats.
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Originally Posted by Dragon Pacific
(Post 10776030)
Looks like it’s happening. More news this pm. Hang on to your hats.
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what happened to the missing thread complete with 3 links to Chinese press?
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The person who started the thread deleted it.
Rob |
http://www.thestandard.com.hk/breaki...-restructuring
Local media reported today that the airline operator was planning to scrap the operation of Cathay Dragon and merge the branch with HK Express, to form a new company Cathay Express, citing market sources. Cathay Pacific also planned to lay off staff and cut 30 percent of the salary of its pilots, sources said. |
Originally Posted by herewego75
(Post 10777066)
Spreading fake news or was it just all rubbish? What do the KA guys think?
C scale is a bit different. The company can remove all variable components. Better 30% reduction than no job. Senior captains can afford it. Junior ones will make do. The CX group don’t want to loose any pilots, just negotiate ( enforce?) better and more equitable deal with those it has . |
My first reaction to Krone's post was to LMFAO, but then I remembered who we're dealing with here, Kathy Pathetic, anything is possible :sad:
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Originally Posted by herewego75
(Post 10777066)
Spreading fake news or was it just all rubbish? What do the KA guys think?
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