Thinking about what has happened since the 3rd quarter and what effects the years profits. Does anyone find it ironic that the company BOUGHT an airline during that time? It also BOUGHT several airframes? What about that huge ad campaign? All the flashy stuff in CXC, i mean really a giant flight tracker in the main lobby... of course they were handing out free mulled wine and cake the other day for office staff lunch!!!

Not to mention the money to make caac go away (ok we can write that off as the loss)... but honest for a company to say its hurting.

Does anyone else feel the irony and bs or is it just me?

(13th month - 30000) / (13th month + annual salary) x 365 = days owed by the AMP.

It’s that simple, unless stupid.

In my opinion these 100 or so new trainers are screwing the rest of us, and they know it.
I wouldn’t be surprised if most of them wouldn’t even normally be considered for training, we’re it not for the fact that the company was desperate.

The only time we actually had one over on the company and these and we had to f&$@ it up...

It was so funny they tried to make it look like they we forced into it hahaha. Well that failed, didn’t it?
The company didn’t even try to make it look real by trying to rope in people who didn’t show interest.

Missingblade,

I’ll bite.
The company’s dysfunctional FOP department has resulted in a 300% increase in attrition in the past 4 years. The expanded training department with its record number of subservient captains is predominantly employed doing nothing more than replacing those that don’t see a career with a broken carrier.

So another way of looking at the issue;
If management could once again make the airline an enviable place to finish one’s career, then the necessity for a bloated training department is completely removed. The ONLY reason you or anyone else is being offered a training position is because of the airline‘s dysfunction and not because of an expanding pilot body. The greater the capacity of the training department, the lower management can drive career satisfaction. Just remember, your offered promotion is a direct result of a colleague’s broken dream of a career at the airline.

Missing blade you need to change your name to missing screw , joining training in the current situation is screwing your colleagues over well done we are all so proud of you

With cos 18 being introduced, thanks to existing unions DPA and AOA who did absolutely nothing to resist this from happening, you can expect everyone’s conditions will only go downhill, eventually same level as cos18 folks.
Cos18 folks can expect getting a whole month worth of sim support duty and getting only minimum pay.
Flights can expect unnecessary delays and extended block times by flying slower to make up for cos 18 $ losses. OTP can go down the drain. 👍🏿
Im pretty sure this wont be the only year they are not paying us our full 13th month. Just tweak the formula a little and tell you oh i’m sorry, can’t pay you in full but please accept 10k, from us exercising our discretion. Love cx

the only way this company can be sustainable is to merge CX and KA once and for all.
something should have been done ten years ago

Agreed! Solve any shortage of pilots and training resources in the near to medium terms. Get them up to speed on A350, leave a small contingent to push the A320 operation to HKE and be done with it. Then, CX can stop hiring these ridiculous NJers willing to accept anything because they aren’t even pilots. Perhaps use the extra training to hire DEFOs on the bases that cannot be staffed by those currently on the seniority list and get some decent experience. CX is like a loaded freight train barreling towards a vehicle disabled on the tracks. It’s just a matter of time. Strong captains are keeping this airline safe. That won’t always be the case. It’s pretty simple math.

But thats too expensive

What’s expensive is plonking in a perfectly good airplane with 300-400 passengers on it because the bean counters hijacked pilot hiring. But keep drooling into that iPad NJers... That’ll keep you safe!

Totally agree, it would have to be a brutal cut and dry merge with a seniority list purely based on DOJ anything else just gets complicated, yes it’s sucks merging lists but at least it’s transparent (not something you see in CX and the more complicated it is the more opportunity CX has to create loopholes dividing the crews), the long term effect should be a better career. At the same time they could put the vacancy bidding system in place once again with a transparent seniority list it’s not complicated giving us more lifestyle choices and a career with a future we can predict. Is it April 1st sadly I must be dreaming. Imagine the AOA/DPA approaching the GMA we’ve agreed on a DOJ combined seniority list effective January 1st 2020 all positions based on a VBS 😂 DEFOs go where no one opts to.