Originally Posted by mngmt mole (Post 10562582)

Hmmm, don't think I was "rubbing salt" in anyone's wounds. I was explaining why I was still here. I joined on a sensible package. Obviously, you didn't. I was able to purchase several homes on the original scheme, and that, combined with other business opportunities (and family concerns) is why I am still "here". I am sorry that your package (which you obviously agreed to) was not as lucrative, but ultimately your decision (along with thousands of others who have accepted even less) is why you so resent people like myself. Let me tell you something: I would never have come to HK on the conditions that are now offered (or have been offered since about 2000). I would have stayed in my home country and established a sensible career. You, and many like you, are now resentful of the circumstances that you are now dealing with. I am sensitive to that, but not sympathetic. You made your choice, and I made mine. Don't condemn me for my more considered decision. Best wishes, and good luck.

Originally Posted by Air Profit (Post 10563095)

What I do or do not do is none of your business. It's called the ability to voice an opinion, and if you don't like it, then you are free to not bother reading it. And if you've been here 25 years, then you have likely obtained the same benefit as MM was speaking of. The fact that people as senior as he are willing to describe CX as the toilet brush it has become is frankly commendable, as it would be easy for him to sit back (like you are doing) and say, " all is fine, i've got mine". Perhaps you could simply point out where his comments are incorrect or unwarranted. Might be more helpful than coming across as someone who is obliquely supporting things the way they are. As it is, you suggest we "should just leave", and again, wouldn't that be an all so easy way for management to keep wages and benefits low? Your attitude is actually the offensive one.

Originally Posted by Roy De Kantzow (Post 10563351)

Some of you guys really do have an answer for everything don’t you?

Actually, I have no problem whatsoever with the fact you did so well out of CX and Hong Kong in general. You joined at the ‘right’ time, and you had the required experience at the time – congratulations.

However, please do us all a favour and have the good grace and humility to realise that you have had a fantastic innings. Constantly belittling your junior colleagues and moaning about your employment situation makes you look quite pathetic really… similar to a bunch of petulant, spoiled school kids.

Interestingly, the best senior Captains (A-scale if you like) I flew with at CX were those that understood the relative gap in T’s and C’s and focussed on working with their junior colleagues rather than against them. These Captains earned natural respect by respecting their colleagues on the flight deck and passing on their knowledge. 99.9% of Pilots I meet are more than capable of making their own choices and conditions, and young pilots can in no way be blamed for joining a contract that has been allowed to exist by the existing workforce.

We’re constantly told on this forum that we should leave CX and that CX is over, and yet now we are told that leaving is bad and that we are like headless chickens.

Well, I made my choice and left CX. I guess I’m in the headless chicken brigade… I wonder who is happier though?

I lived in the Marina until last year. It is without doubt one of the nicest 'living' experiences that I have come across in HK. For a family it proves far more satisfying than a shoebox apartment could ever provide. My boat had a huge outer deck on the top level with bbq, wet bar and enough room for 15 people to have dinner..! The master bdrm is bigger than most apartments. The only reason I sold was because I started commuting and I decided on a tiny (and I mean tiny!) place in Tung Chung.