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ron burgandy 2nd May 2019 11:49

This tale is a great metaphor for all our woes.

Here’s a pilot with literally nothing to lose and he still won’t stand up for himself.

Instead, he accepts being treated sub-standardly, (because of good manners/ professionalism / path of least resistance / shock / or just stupidity - take your pick) and then bleats about it after the fact.

How about when they ask at the gate, “do you want to travel or not”, he says yes, in my booked class, otherwise get me a hotel or your manager, or both.

Now he might be a great guy, absolute gentleman, pleasure to fly with etc etc, but

Stand up for yourself and your entitlements FFS

MENELAUS 2nd May 2019 15:49

Yea I have to admit if the jobsworth concerned had asked me “ do you want to travel or not” he’d now be drinking congee through a straw and requiring the assistance of a maxillofacial surgeon as frankly I’d have nothing to lose.
Prat.

unitedabx 3rd May 2019 04:25


Originally Posted by Globocnik (Post 10461391)
Yea I have to admit if the jobsworth concerned had asked me “ do you want to travel or not” he’d now be drinking congee through a straw and requiring the assistance of a maxillofacial surgeon as frankly I’d have nothing to lose.
Prat.

Globocnik

Yeh and you would have been arrested and fired within the hour. Explain that to your wife. Moron.

unitedabx 3rd May 2019 04:30


Originally Posted by ron burgandy (Post 10461251)
This tale is a great metaphor for all our woes.

Here’s a pilot with literally nothing to lose and he still won’t stand up for himself.

Instead, he accepts being treated sub-standardly, (because of good manners/ professionalism / path of least resistance / shock / or just stupidity - take your pick) and then bleats about it after the fact.

How about when they ask at the gate, “do you want to travel or not”, he says yes, in my booked class, otherwise get me a hotel or your manager, or both.

Now he might be a great guy, absolute gentleman, pleasure to fly with etc etc, but

Stand up for yourself and your entitlements FFS

Ron you clearly haven't a clue. So to help you not make the mistakes you outlined above let me tell you this. When you leave on your repatriation flight you are leaving Hong Kong and on an assigned date. To collect your PF tax free you MUST leave HKG before midnight that day or else it is subject to HKG tax. So to refuse to get on , ask for a hotel for the night would cost the company HKD2000 but the pilot potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars. So get real, get your facts straight or better still shut the f****k up. The guy in question is a great guy, great pilot and now thankfully enjoying his retirement away from tough guy morons like you.

Farman Biplane 3rd May 2019 04:55

Uni
If it is such a critical event then why would you attempt to get out on the last flight possible before midnight? I call BS. Could always catch a ferry to Macau!
Would it not be prudent in such a risky venture to plan to leave HK a few days before your “official” HKIRDetc leaving date?

oriental flyer 3rd May 2019 05:40


Originally Posted by unitedabx (Post 10461669)
Ron you clearly haven't a clue. So to help you not make the mistakes you outlined above let me tell you this. When you leave on your repatriation flight you are leaving Hong Kong and on an assigned date. To collect your PF tax free you MUST leave HKG before midnight that day or else it is subject to HKG tax. So to refuse to get on , ask for a hotel for the night would cost the company HKD2000 but the pilot potentially hundreds of thousands of dollars. So get real, get your facts straight or better still shut the f****k up. The guy in question is a great guy, great pilot and now thankfully enjoying his retirement away from tough guy morons like you.

united you are totally wrong , you can pick up your provident fund and remain in HK without any tax implications . You could start a new job with a new employer the very next day again without tax implications . The only problem is if you decided to continue as say a sim instructor with Cathay because that is considered continuous employment . I have a number of friends who have left Cathay collected their provident fund and remained in HK without issues

Penske 3rd May 2019 05:41

United....you are quite an asshole.

unitedabx 3rd May 2019 06:17


Originally Posted by oriental flyer (Post 10461695)


united you are totally wrong , you can pick up your provident fund and remain in HK without any tax implications . You could start a new job with a new employer the very next day again without tax implications . The only problem is if you decided to continue as say a sim instructor with Cathay because that is considered continuous employment . I have a number of friends who have left Cathay collected their provident fund and remained in HK without issues

Wrong. Gary was under the old PF scheme which has different rules.

unitedabx 3rd May 2019 06:18


Originally Posted by Farman Biplane (Post 10461675)
Uni
If it is such a critical event then why would you attempt to get out on the last flight possible before midnight? I call BS. Could always catch a ferry to Macau!
Would it not be prudent in such a risky venture to plan to leave HK a few days before your “official” HKIRDetc leaving date?

Gary was under the old PF scheme. Completely different set of rules to abide by.

Freehills 3rd May 2019 06:48


Originally Posted by Globocnik (Post 10461391)
Yea I have to admit if the jobsworth concerned had asked me “ do you want to travel or not” he’d now be drinking congee through a straw and requiring the assistance of a maxillofacial surgeon as frankly I’d have nothing to lose.
Prat.

Eh - at least he got to leave CX & HK.

And you would have something to lose - your freedom for a while. Brutally beating someone to the extent they need facial reconstruction surgery will get you serious jail time in HK. Without intent - up to 3 years, with intent - up to life. As it sounds you have intent, I would think over 3 years.

MENELAUS 3rd May 2019 07:29


Originally Posted by unitedabx (Post 10461668)
Globocnik

Yeh and you would have been arrested and fired within the hour. Explain that to your wife. Moron.

Haven’t got one...wife that is. I’m gay. In which case you can put me down for a 10 year “stretch”. Tata.

Gordomac 3rd May 2019 09:17

Globo being referred to as a "Prat", "Moron" and now coming out on our esteemed public platform says it all about the loser. Always did open his Gobo before thinking. Back to thread though ; I too was sickened by the Retirees treatment. CX , once the legacy carrier of choice now managed as a loco. GF wasn't much better. We were given Staff Travel benefits which were for life in retirement. They were not great but not bad either. They were diluted after a couple of years after the threat of complete withdrawal and then withdrawn anyway. On my leaving flight, it was Firm First but we were kept by the moronic gate guy , at the gate, denied boarding until he was satisfied that no last second joiners would come tearing down the mile & a half between check-in and boarding . We were reluctantly allowed to board at door close time into the empty FC cabin. Boy, did I savour my Jack & coke without looking back.

Unlike Arfur Dent, we have no Saff Travel in GF retirement. I Have to slip into me shell suit and line up in the baffle queue with, at least, my firm ticket on Easy like everyone else.

Might try pitching up with my Retired Senior Captain GF ID though, at the BA desk & ask for an ID90.

MENELAUS 3rd May 2019 11:02

Ah Gordo old fruit. It was an attempt at humour. And given that United’s post are invariably specious bs it wasn’t all that difficult.
I’m no more gay than you Gordon... wasn’t that a type of Scottish reel ?
I’ve lived here long enough to know the Gweilo always comes off worse... and the reference to broken teeth etc was, of course, bluster.
However, if it gives United biscuits the chance to call
me a moron, then it’s obviously worth it.
Gordo, riddle me this. The boredom of retirement aside, why do you lurk on the FH Forums ? Vicarious pleasure. ? Did you fail the ASL selection ( unlikely I know, basic requirements were a pulse and an urge to screw over someone’s seniority) or what. ?
Shell suit... very 90’s... standard attire of the punters you used to fly. Funny how the world goes full circle.
Hope that was considered enough for you.

1200firm 3rd May 2019 12:57

Wrong. He was on the new scheme. Joined in 1994.

Gordomac 4th May 2019 09:35

Globo; Too much of a thread drift to answer all your questions but, for one, I do lurk around FH for the huge "larf of the day" it gives me observing you guys swinging your handbags at each other. I kinda enjoy your postings too as it gives me a chance to dust down me trustee old Odhams Dictionary to get through much of it.

MENELAUS 4th May 2019 09:47

You old softy Gordo. Oldhams. ? More of a Chambers’ man myself.
Have a commandaria ( or 3) on me.


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