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Initial Assessment SO (second officer) Cathay Pacific
Hello
I was just wondering how many of us were sent emails to be invited to sit the initial testing. I hear 4000 people apply per year so was curious whether this number has increased. Just want to know how many people will be sitting the initial stage, because I thought they would've already weeded out someone so academically un-gifted like me before preliminary assessment. Not sure if they just accept anyone who applies or did they do some filtering before sending emails out. |
Don’t stress. Rumour has it that because hardly anyone is accepting the new COS18 contract the recruitment department has been instructed to call back previously rejected candidates for reassessment. They will now ,miraculously, be found suitable if they are prepared to accept the contract. So if you have a pulse then the likelihood of passing selection is excellent! |
Hi bmt.
Before everyone else gets here and the circus really kicks off, I'll throw in my 2 cents. The new COS 18 contract is a big concern for anybody wanting any form of stable career/income. Read carefully and understand the implications before proceeding. G |
Originally Posted by kenfoggo
(Post 10397771)
Don’t stress. Rumour has it that because hardly anyone is accepting the new COS18 contract the recruitment department has been instructed to call back previously rejected candidates for reassessment. They will now ,miraculously, be found suitable if they are prepared to accept the contract. So if you have a pulse then the likelihood of passing selection is excellent! |
At least they'd know what they're getting themselves in to. CX recruitment hasn't given a straight answer to any pilot recruit for years.
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I am academically ungifted and applied because I saw the Instagram pilots posting cool stuff and their cool life.. I failed a few months ago (before new CoS), was told to attend selection after the new CoS was announced. I was offered but I turned it down because I don't see a future with this company and I will never get that stable cool life.
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Anyone who knows what the latest t&c's of this entry is? I've heard that you will need to fund a part of the training.
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cant give specifics but right from the get go you can expect to earn about half of what a COS08 SO will be earning, heaven forbid you are sick and fly less which will reduce your pay further
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Originally Posted by Dan Buster
(Post 10400020)
yep. You fund 50% of the training costs now. |
Originally Posted by Dan Buster
(Post 10400077)
You do realise that just 3 short months ago CX fully trained all their pilots and didn't charge them for it?
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No, he's obviously not saying you should stay away and wait for the tide to turn.
It will never turn (not in your favour, anyway) The reality is Low initial salary Massive training bond Expensive housing No overtime, ever You'll be at the bottom of a 1000 strong second officer "seniority" list Advancement from SO to JFO is currently at 5 years and could easily reach 10 years or more The airline is not growing in pilot numbers (seats, sure, but not airframe drivers) Crewing compliment is being driven by accountants, not safety, and CN, FO, 2 x SO will be the norm Apart from a swathe (±150) of retirements of A scale legacy pilots in the next 3 or so years, there are a lot of relatively young captains who will not be reaching retirement age for at least 25 years You'll be poor and unable to afford to purchase any property in HKG, ever Caveat emptor |
Someone posted the COS18 contract on the CX cadet program thread over on South East Asia Wannabes. If anyone wants to see for themselves exactly what the contract entails.
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No requirement for ATPL subject passes any more either.
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HK ab initio cadets now have to pay 50% of their training, funded by not receiving the HKPA allowance for the first 3 years of their employment. It doesn't apply to others
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Originally Posted by Jetstream alpha
(Post 10400543)
HK ab initio cadets now have to pay 50% of their training, funded by not receiving the HKPA allowance for the first 3 years of their employment. It doesn't apply to others
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Don't forget that AE and TT SOs no longer receive the incentive payment worth over 500K
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Hi all,
I had sent the application and the forms / documents on 8th Jan, 2019. Still no news about further process. anyone like to share their experience if this is normal or how much time it is going to take approx to hear a call for an interview / subsequent selection process. Thanks |
Originally Posted by kenfoggo
(Post 10397771)
Don’t stress. Rumour has it that because hardly anyone is accepting the new COS18 contract the recruitment department has been instructed to call back previously rejected candidates for reassessment. They will now ,miraculously, be found suitable if they are prepared to accept the contract. So if you have a pulse then the likelihood of passing selection is excellent! If this true, i had sent application with forms 8th Jan, no positive response so far. Once asked on email, they said that they would assess the application later once they have more invites with documents sent. any idea? |
Originally Posted by needzforspeed
(Post 10400872)
Hi,
If this true, i had sent application with forms 8th Jan, no positive response so far. Once asked on email, they said that they would assess the application later once they have more invites with documents sent. any idea? |
Does anyone here know or been through the computerized assessment (90 min)? I'm asking precisely what are the names of the test you have experienced on the Cut - e? for example: monitoring test, complex control , multitasking etc. Thank you and feel free to contact me on WhatsApp +85266771552. Musthafa here
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Originally Posted by Cpt. Underpants
(Post 10400113)
No, he's obviously not saying you should stay away and wait for the tide to turn.
It will never turn (not in your favour, anyway) The reality is Low initial salary Massive training bond Expensive housing No overtime, ever You'll be at the bottom of a 1000 strong second officer "seniority" list Advancement from SO to JFO is currently at 5 years and could easily reach 10 years or more The airline is not growing in pilot numbers (seats, sure, but not airframe drivers) Crewing compliment is being driven by accountants, not safety, and CN, FO, 2 x SO will be the norm Apart from a swathe (±150) of retirements of A scale legacy pilots in the next 3 or so years, there are a lot of relatively young captains who will not be reaching retirement age for at least 25 years You'll be poor and unable to afford to purchase any property in HKG, ever Caveat emptor |
Originally Posted by cxorcist
(Post 10398260)
Just when we all thought CX had hit rock bottom, the Management finds a way to go subterranean. Why am I even surprised? Is it now officially more difficult to become CX cabin crew than and a pilot? Maybe the cabin crew could double as pilots, a back to front conversion of sorts. |
Originally Posted by Backupnav
(Post 10490869)
Well, a lot are applying at the moment... #femalepower
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Originally Posted by cxorcist
(Post 10490870)
Awesome!!! I can’t wait to bring more of that excellence up front. #malecabincrewtoo |
Hi Guys
Anybody know whats going on in recruitment? Seems like they are super busy with applications. I submitted my documents on 1st May and haven't heard back about the screening process. When I emailed them about interview dates I was told that the earliest dates are in August 2019. Anyone in the same boat as me? Thank you. |
Originally Posted by skychief1994
(Post 10492207)
Hi Guys
Anybody know whats going on in recruitment? Seems like they are super busy with applications. I submitted my documents on 1st May and haven't heard back about the screening process. When I emailed them about interview dates I was told that the earliest dates are in August 2019. Anyone in the same boat as me? Thank you. |
To be honest I’ve been waiting for a year before they got back to me. And I’d appreciate some professionalism from you. If not then keep your mouth shut and don’t reply. |
Haha thank you. I wouldn’t mind a management position in the future. |
Don't worry about the waiting time for applications, i'd be way more concerned about having to sit next to these guys for 12 hours at a time
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I miss the FH wannabes forum. |
Originally Posted by broadband circuit
(Post 10493342)
Me too....
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It’s really kind of sad. I had 8,000 hours when I joined Cathay thinking it was the best gig on the planet. I spent 11 years there and left after it fell apart and I realized there was no future there. I gained a lot of experience but in this business seniority is everything. Now I get to start at the bottom of a proper airline. I wish the best to those that want to join Cathay but unfortunately I know they will experience the worst. It’s not a good place. |
Oh rubbish, people make an Airline and I’m proud to work with some of the Worlds best. Yes we have issues here but most Airlines do. I’m glad you left. |
Originally Posted by ACMS
(Post 10493549)
Oh rubbish, people make an Airline and I’m proud to work with some of the Worlds best. Yes we have issues here but most Airlines do. I’m glad you left. box P.S. - I left as well. |
Payment for the program
Hey all. I’m a FAA CPL holder with 285 tt. Ive read this thread, as many have mentioned that since they have updated their requirements and also they don’t require ATPLs any more, does it still make easy for the low hour pilots to get their hands on this. Also some one mentioned that the cadet will have to pay 50% of the funds, so how much is that exactly? We all know how hard and expensive it is to live in Hong Kong anyways. Thanks |
Originally Posted by Sario777
(Post 10497415)
Hey all. I’m a FAA CPL holder with 285 tt. Ive read this thread, as many have mentioned that since they have updated their requirements and also they don’t require ATPLs any more, does it still make easy for the low hour pilots to get their hands on this. Also some one mentioned that the cadet will have to pay 50% of the funds, so how much is that exactly? We all know how hard and expensive it is to live in Hong Kong anyways. Thanks |
285 hrs? Perhaps you should apply to Ethiopian. Or build some time and find a real job. Learn some patience. Once upon a time it took 5000 hours to land a crap job at a low paying regional. These men will be your captain. Complaining about how long it took will get you a big cup of STFU and hopefully a slap across the face. |
Originally Posted by Sario777
(Post 10497415)
Hey all. I’m a FAA CPL holder with 285 tt. Ive read this thread, as many have mentioned that since they have updated their requirements and also they don’t require ATPLs any more, does it still make easy for the low hour pilots to get their hands on this. Also some one mentioned that the cadet will have to pay 50% of the funds, so how much is that exactly? We all know how hard and expensive it is to live in Hong Kong anyways. Thanks The cadet does not pay rather forfeits his HKPA for 3 years as a version of the payment and if he quits then hes on the hook for it. Seriously if you have an faa cpl avoid hkg. |
Sario. Heed the advice you are getting. You will be FAR better off following the traditional US route to airline employment. Instruct, regional...then major. Come to CX/HK and you will certainly regret your decision. Sorry it's not what you want to hear, but you will be much better off respecting the warning to stay away (and that applies to ANY pilot who can work in the US).
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Why are you guys discouraging people from coming here? Have you seen the number of SOs on the resignation list put together by the AOA? Why would you try and stop a massive own-goal by the other team?
I say come on over boys and girls, all welcome. Please apply and see for yourself. What have you got to lose? If you don’t like making bunks and eating the sandwich tray for 4-7 years, you can always head to another airline like others are doing. |
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