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Boy, I think this stuff gets the esoteric bullish!t award for the week.
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I wonder if the CAD/HKIA are aware of this practice and of the apparent conflict with the HKIA AOM? |
Originally Posted by White None
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Sir: Either your Sarcasm detector is seriously out of whack or you have less clue about what’s going on around here then about refueling (and incidentally, why do you care so much anyway - slow day in the pub?) I sure do. |
Originally Posted by BuzzBox
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For goodness sake, CX has been operating that way for at least the last 25 years and the procedure is defined in the company’s Operations Manual, which is approved by the HKCAD. HKCAD FOIs regularly fly with the company and it is regularly ramp inspected. Your seemingly innocent question now sounds like a witch hunt. By 25 years. Fascinating! |
Originally Posted by Slasher1
(Post 10365686)
Boy, I think this stuff gets the esoteric bullish!t award for the week.
The bastard failed him! No sense of humour obviously. |
Whenever the crew or passengers are onboard during refuelling operation, a headset must be connected to the nose wheel interphone connection and a qualified headset man of HAECO/CASL should be stand-by in the vicinity of nose gear. The procedure of refuelling with Passengers Onboard, Embarking or Disembarking should be strictly followed up.
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Procedure AOM ???
Originally Posted by spannersatcx
(Post 10365764)
Whenever the crew or passengers are onboard during refuelling operation, a headset must be connected to the nose wheel interphone connection and a qualified headset man of HAECO/CASL should be stand-by in the vicinity of nose gear. The procedure of refuelling with Passengers Onboard, Embarking or Disembarking should be strictly followed up.
Ask CX and you'll get a Bill Clinton answer; define "Vicinity". !!!!!! |
Considering The price we are paying for fuel we should have our own fuel valet provided by the fuel companies |
and a qualified headset man of HAECO/CASL |
Originally Posted by spannersatcx
(Post 10365764)
Whenever the crew or passengers are onboard during refuelling operation, a headset must be connected to the nose wheel interphone connection and a qualified headset man of HAECO/CASL should be stand-by in the vicinity of nose gear. The procedure of refuelling with Passengers Onboard, Embarking or Disembarking should be strictly followed up.
So its not 'esoteric bull****' for many. Besides that, given the two recent major cargo fires during loading in HKIA you'd think it would be a good idea to have a manned headset during re-fuelling with Pax on board, especially if loading was going on too (as it most commonly would be). |
How about this new invention, WIRELESS.
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Wireless headsets - great idea, if they work. I’ve found they work about half the time when the ground crew are positioned at the wing. You’ve probably heard that ‘headset connected’ annunciation being repeated over and over. That’s the headset losing wireless connection and re-making it. Theoretically the headset has the range to work from back there at the wing, but if you ask the groundcrew guys about it they’ll tell you it only works if the headset battery is fully charged, and after they’ve been using it on the ramp for a few hours the battery runs down, the signal weakens, and those comms drops occur. If they don’t have enough backup sets to keep one on charge while the other one is in use the system is unreliable. So it comes down to money again. |
We have wireless headsets, no problems at all, can be at the rear of aircraft and communicate easily. |
When fully charged. Or maybe some sets are weaker than others. If you’re an engineer, ask your crews about their experience with multiple ‘headset connected’ messages. Like i said, it’s a good solution if it works properly. |
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