If you were wearing the pink Tie, I am sure it does !

And no SHP reimbursement thanks to an AOA cock-up. Am really wondering why I bother paying my dues now??

@unitedabx

Thanks, it's something that's new to me and I just found it a bit ironic

The KA Captains are certainly in the pink, I'll be picking up my 150k ++ on the 25th Jan.

Bacou, you are welcome to proudly wear your green brushstroke tie if that still makes you feel so special. :D

13th month is calculated as such.

1 month = 4 weeks
12 months = 48 weeks
52 weeks in a year.

do the maths

Its ok the 13th month is safe. No Penalty (probably)!

No extra 13th month PF payment
 

It's simple, if they pretend to pay me, i'll pretend to work. If the full 13th month isn't forthcoming, then my month off unfit will be. The scales will be balanced one way or the other...

Krone, age 28 apparently. We'll bow to your superior intellect. In the meantime, i'll be doing exactly as AP, which is enjoy another month of my life away from toxic CX....and CX will give a :mad:.

"May not" will be the norm, just as it is for CX now. KA will never give up the 13th month. Lessons have been learned from the AOA's mistakes.

You guys know that the CX and KA Master seniority lists will be merged next year. Right? DS will be meeting with the company later this year to discuss details.

Wonder if the unions will merge to one as well.

What's it to you Krone?

As soon as there's a whiff of industrial peace at CX, the blow-torch is coming your way. And keyboard warriors just like you from the CX side will flame divisiveness. So how about seeing the chessboard a few moves on and stop being a clown.

And do you really think an airline doesn't care about a high levels of absenteeism? Especially when tactical in nature which hurts the most in efficiency? Or an aggrieved career captain cares about losing a month of duty pay when they are probably finding some mental health respite from a toxic work environment?

Is the KA list in order of DOJ? Because the CX one isn't, it's a mess, in another genius stroke of divide and conquer by CX they had to get there dirty little fingers into it rather than standard practice of DOJ so any merger will no doubt lead to infighting and CX winning by the AOA having to negotiate with CX as a result.

Just create a single bloody list based on DOJ and tag each crew as CX or KA, you want transparency then DOJ it is, it's the backbone of a seniority system, then let the union's not the company come to a solution that's agreeable for the future, negotiating with the company only ends up in a reduction of terms. Perhaps then stuff like vacancy bidding can come to fruition without the seniority list screwing it up and again leading to negotiation with the company. Wrestling with a pig comes to mind.

DOJ would seem simple but the DFO wants to blend the two lists one for one. That is to say, number one in CX followed by number one in KA and so on. First used when BEA bought out Eastern in the UK in the 1960's this has been the default seniority merging method used repeatedly. In the USA this would be laughed at but we are not in the UK. How the canadian and US based pilots would fit in is the problem. The immediate advantage to any KA driver is that with only 1000 pilots and CX 3500 a KA pilot will always find him/herself in the top 2000 of a 4500 strong list. Win Win for KA.

Sorry KA but your travel seniority is DOJ and that is how CX will manage the conversion of seniority lists. This also applies to cabin crew remember so licence dates are irrelevant.