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jetjockey696 11th Oct 2018 06:00

CX Roadshow UK... anyone interested...
 
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Dragon Pacific 11th Oct 2018 06:34

A bit optimistic going to LGW to do a roadshow. Surely they should be trying in MNL with POS 2018.

mngmt mole 11th Oct 2018 08:25

“Flight Crew Futures”...? Can easily answer that: miserable, hopeless and poverty stricken. Anything else you need to know?

Liam Gallagher 11th Oct 2018 15:25

"Flight crew futures". Are they anything like "Oil futures"? I don't recall them working out particularly well either.

jetjockey696 11th Oct 2018 15:40

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a4a7ef569.jpeg

Looks like Gatwick is the new game safari... Happy hunting.

Gnadenburg 11th Oct 2018 16:11

The crew hotel at Sama Sama in KL may be better pickings? Though chatting to the Malindo/ Lion Air pilots their preference is HKA due the colonial check and training system at CX / KA.

Have they thought of that? Low cost pilots means low cost standards ! If you have to budget getting to work you don't want to be bothered with extra curricular professionalism.

sjimmy 11th Oct 2018 20:07

Probably hunting for Brexit refugees.

unitedabx 12th Oct 2018 11:00


Originally Posted by Liam Gallagher (Post 10271354)
"Flight crew futures". Are they anything like "Oil futures"? I don't recall them working out particularly well either.

"Flight Crew Futures" what they mean is careers but like "Life well Travelled" it is pigeon English at it's very worst.
There is no career in CX and the world knows it. I notice Qatar inviting captains and first officers to join them. The best Cx can offer is second officer for 5-6 years on average pay in the most expensive city on the planet.
I suspect they will hope to pick up those pilots who don't get accepted by Qatar, BA, Emirates, Easyjet and Jet2 who are all running roadshows that week in the Gatwick area. Note no rosdshows at Heathrow because no one at VS or BA would think of jumping ship to Cx from there. Next Cx roadshow Delhi and Mumbai.

unitedabx 12th Oct 2018 11:05


Originally Posted by sjimmy (Post 10271577)
Probably hunting for Brexit refugees.

Just heard that one of the recruiting team ( an Airbus pilot on maternity leave ) will be the pilot rep at the roadshow in Gatwick. She is leaving to join Qantas in February 19 and handed in her resignation tw days ago.
You couldn't make this up.

Dan Winterland 12th Oct 2018 17:28


Never thought I'd see the day that CX stoops to Road Show Recruiting.
One bit of advice I received from an old sage many years ago was never to join a company which had recruitment seminars. Good companies don't need to go out trawling for recruits. The good recruits contact them.

Foxdeux 12th Oct 2018 18:56


Originally Posted by unitedabx (Post 10271983)
"Flight Crew Futures" what they mean is careers but like "Life well Travelled" it is pigeon English at it's very worst.
There is no career in CX and the world knows it. I notice Qatar inviting captains and first officers to join them. The best Cx can offer is second officer for 5-6 years on average pay in the most expensive city on the planet.
I suspect they will hope to pick up those pilots who don't get accepted by Qatar, BA, Emirates, Easyjet and Jet2 who are all running roadshows that week in the Gatwick area. Note no rosdshows at Heathrow because no one at VS or BA would think of jumping ship to Cx from there. Next Cx roadshow Delhi and Mumbai.

If that's true then CX pilots will soon be publicly defecating on the streets. Mark my words.

AQIS Boigu 12th Oct 2018 23:07

Our members of the recruitment team have turned into a bunch of ambulance chasers.

Air Profit 13th Oct 2018 00:26


Originally Posted by unitedabx (Post 10271990)
Just heard that one of the recruiting team ( an Airbus pilot on maternity leave ) will be the pilot rep at the roadshow in Gatwick. She is leaving to join Qantas in February 19 and handed in her resignation tw days ago.
You couldn't make this up.

Candidate: "excuse me ms, why would I be better off taking a job with CX"...?
Recruiter: " f'd if I know, i'm leaving for Qantas next month"....!!

That about sums up CX, and the value of it's "roadshow". You couldn't make this up if you tried.

unitedabx 13th Oct 2018 05:16


Originally Posted by Air Profit (Post 10272503)
Candidate: "excuse me ms, why would I be better off taking a job with CX"...?
Recruiter: " f'd if I know, i'm leaving for Qantas next month"....!!

That about sums up CX, and the value of it's "roadshow". You couldn't make this up if you tried.

That's exactly it.
The Qatar recruiting team is led by their 787 Chief Pilot and some HR people. The Cx Team is led by a maternity leave Airbus F/O who doesn't want to do this but was told she had to as a ground duty and who has already resigned to go to Qantas. I am aslo informed Qatar will offer a signing on bonus for type rated pilots. CX can't match that. Jet2 will offer "the UK base of your choice" as an incentive. CX can't offer that. BA will offer LGW commands within 2 years. CX can't match that either.

enoughisenough_ 13th Oct 2018 05:21


Originally Posted by unitedabx (Post 10272564)
That's exactly it.
The Qatar recruiting team is led by their 787 Chief Pilot and some HR people. The Cx Team is led by a maternity leave Airbus F/O who doesn't want to do this but was told she had to as a ground duty and who has already resigned to go to Qantas. I am aslo informed Qatar will offer a signing on bonus for type rated pilots. CX can't match that. Jet2 will offer "the UK base of your choice" as an incentive. CX can't offer that. BA will offer LGW commands within 2 years. CX can't match that either.

But CX can offer COS18 which is "designed to attract top talent" :ugh:

unitedabx 13th Oct 2018 05:34


Originally Posted by enoughisenough_ (Post 10272565)


But CX can offer COS18 which is "designed to attract top talent" :ugh:

Yep CX is marginally better then a clerk position at HSBC or counter employee at McDonalds. No wait. You don't have to pay for your training at McDonalds or HSBC so I guess they are better options.

unitedabx 13th Oct 2018 05:38

It will be very interesting to see what response CX gets in LGW. Of course we will never be told the truth but I suspect the empty appointment slots and empty chairs will sound alarm bells back in CX City. Of course the solution will be more cuts. It is the Swire solution to everything. But it doesn't work that way anymore.

Oasis 13th Oct 2018 06:08

If cx management can't anticipate the needs and wants of prospective and current employees, what chance does it have anticipating the same for our customers?

mngmt mole 13th Oct 2018 06:26


Originally Posted by Oasis (Post 10272581)
If cx management can't anticipate the needs and wants of prospective and current employees, what chance does it have anticipating the same for our customers?

well that explains the past 10 years or so doesn’t it ?

mngmt mole 13th Oct 2018 06:28


Originally Posted by enoughisenough_ (Post 10272565)


But CX can offer COS18 which is "designed to attract top talent" :ugh:

...”top talent”....haha, you are KILLING me 😂😂😂

nike 13th Oct 2018 07:21


Yep CX is marginally better then a clerk position at HSBC or counter employee at McDonalds
You get 13th month at McDonald's...

unitedabx 13th Oct 2018 07:31


Originally Posted by nike (Post 10272610)


You get 13th month at McDonald's...

And free burgers !

RHINO 13th Oct 2018 08:14

Is DEC on offer?

unitedabx 13th Oct 2018 08:23


Originally Posted by RHINO (Post 10272651)
Is DEC on offer?

yes under COS18

Qatar sign up bonus for type rated pilots 100K Qatari Riyal ( approx GBP20K ) Not bad.

Meikleour 13th Oct 2018 09:26


Originally Posted by RHINO (Post 10272651)
Is DEC on offer?

RHINO: ha ha ha ha !!!!!!!

Starbear 13th Oct 2018 10:53


Originally Posted by unitedabx (Post 10272564)
That's exactly it.
The Cx Team is led by a maternity leave Airbus F/O who doesn't want to do this but was told she had to as a ground duty .

seriously? They can make her fly (even as a pax) whilst on maternity leave? As bad as CX are I simply don’t believe this one.

Tricia Takanawa 13th Oct 2018 10:56


Originally Posted by unitedabx (Post 10272653)

Qatar sign up bonus for type rated pilots 100K Qatari Riyal ( approx GBP20K ) Not bad.

Where did you see this? I can'd find it mentioned anywhere. If so, that could get tempting...

illtellyouhowitis 13th Oct 2018 10:59

Can you commute with Qatar????

1200firm 13th Oct 2018 12:13


Originally Posted by illtellyouhowitis (Post 10272749)
Can you commute with Qatar????

Yes no problem commuting to Bahrain.

Frogman1484 13th Oct 2018 12:50


Originally Posted by Starbear (Post 10272741)

seriously? They can make her fly (even as a pax) whilst on maternity leave? As bad as CX are I simply don’t believe this one.


You can fly upto 35 weeks, just cannot fly a full roster

morningcoffee 13th Oct 2018 15:44


Originally Posted by Frogman1484 (Post 10272820)
You can fly upto 35 weeks, just cannot fly a full roster

love how BA QF Lufthansa etc all have crew flying while pregnant and they’re golden. CX do it and they’re slave drivers.

morningcoffee 13th Oct 2018 15:46


Originally Posted by illtellyouhowitis (Post 10272749)
Can you commute with Qatar????

Eveyone should go to Qatar, don’t look at the roster or contract, just leap in and organise your roster for commuting after you’ve settled in Doha.

Tea time 13th Oct 2018 17:16

I will be in UK during the roadshow , maybe I should pretend to be a candidate and go for the interview . I could ask a number of seriously good questions .

The reason that pregnant women are taken off flying duties it due to the increased radiation exposure which can harm the rapidly developing foetus . Personally I would never allow my wife near an aeroplane if she was pregnant

Flex88 20th Oct 2018 08:42

Why CX ?
 
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Read the attachment from the WSJ and ask yourself again, why would I pack up and come to the worlds most expensive city.. You decide.

CX is cutting benefits and salary........

#CXit

unitedabx 22nd Oct 2018 08:09

Last weeks turnout at The Hilton Gatwick was 14 attendees.
Qatar had over 300. Says it all.

Flagler 22nd Oct 2018 10:15

I was there, there were definitely more than 14 in attendance at LGW. I would estimate around 40, and that was only 10 minutes after opening time. I stayed for an hour and people were arriving and leaving all of the time. I understand your current contract issues but for pilots looking for a job what other options do we really have ?

mr did 22nd Oct 2018 12:02


I understand your current contract issues but for pilots looking for a job what other options do we really have ?
So in summary: the only people looking are unable to find anything else?

Flagler 22nd Oct 2018 12:09

I don’t know if they can’t find anything else, but I can’t at the moment and I want a job, and I’m not just starting out on my career. There were other airlines there from the Middle East and some European operators too. I thought the day was well organised and that the airline staff were very professional. Good mix of ab initio, experienced FO and Captains in attendance.

CyberT 22nd Oct 2018 12:21


Originally Posted by Flagler (Post 10289276)
I was there, there were definitely more than 14 in attendance at LGW. I would estimate around 40, and that was only 10 minutes after opening time. I stayed for an hour and people were arriving and leaving all of the time. I understand your current contract issues but for pilots looking for a job what other options do we really have ?

Flagler If you have no other options, are desperate, flat out of ideas, Cathay are perfect for you.

unitedabx 22nd Oct 2018 13:05


Originally Posted by CyberT (Post 10289409)
Flagler If you have no other options, are desperate, flat out of ideas, Cathay are perfect for you.

Bottom of the barrel but if that's where you are ?


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