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bigjames 6th Jul 2018 07:55
CX 826 5 July Diversion
 
Anyone know why CX 826 landed at YUL instead of YYZ?

arse 6th Jul 2018 08:42
Three laps of the hold, no approach and then off to Montreal.

Best guess is a passing thunderstorm.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...atch-1.4734220

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.gmf...c5305a0c81.png

Betsy 7th Jul 2018 04:54
Only CFP fuel? Seems a lot of such diversions lately. TTW!!

arse 8th Jul 2018 08:33
Dear Betsy: Not wanting to be argumentative, just interested. What makes you think it was CFP fuel? Is that information available somewhere that I don't know about? A quick calculation would suggest more than CFP carried. The CFP had 2400 KG CONT. They did approximately three laps of the hold. Those two items effectively cancel each other out. They choose to go to Montreal rather than the CFP ALT of Ottawa. That is an extra 1.2T. Add the fuel to carry that extra gas and I would guess that they loaded at least an extra 2.0T. Maybe more. I could be wrong. Really hard to say without actually being there. Multiple different factors would have gone into the decision making process. Too many to list here. Can't win them all. :)

bigjames 9th Jul 2018 21:40
My understanding is that they wanted to go to Ottawa but CYOW was at full capacity given all the diversions from CYYZ, so they had no choice but to go to CYUL. Thankfully they had enough fuel to go the extra distance!

TurningFinalRWY36 10th Jul 2018 00:10
Why is this a thread? An aircraft diverted, landed with legal fuel, seems like every thing went to plan

crwkunt roll 10th Jul 2018 01:12
Maybe because the filed Alternate refused them?

arse 10th Jul 2018 01:52
Originally Posted by TurningFinalRWY36 (Post 10192887)
Why is this a thread?
Because it is aviation and it is interesting. Also, ... because it's not the normal PPRuNe industrial trolling nonsense that pervades this site. I'm sure there would have been some interesting and educational info that would have come from it, ... but alas this is the only forum we might learn some of those lessons. If the Captain were to write a short summary for a newsletter, I personally think that would be of value. Unfortunately, the sycophants would be out in force maligning the individual for seeking attention or other such nonsense. Come on Mr Final 36. There must be some interest (I dare not say passion) for flying still in you?

Hugo Peroni the IV 10th Jul 2018 02:51
It’s a 777.....it’ll all be in the next newsletter.

Dilbert68 10th Jul 2018 06:00
Held due to weather, diverted to alternate. Why the f#ck would you clowns feel the need to put this into a newsletter?

Pathetic

Hugo Peroni the IV 10th Jul 2018 07:05
Dilbert

777 Pilots working for Cathay seem to feel an overwhelming need to write to their chief pilot for anything that happens in their operation. This normally gets turned into a story in the fleet newsletter. Quite often these stories are what you and I would call ‘just doing your job’.

it does show a level of fleet bonhomie though. Conversely the airbus pilots generally don’t bother. Anything they send in is usually met with a patronising retort or used against them.

betpump5 10th Jul 2018 09:56
Dear Gus @ AirHongKong...

Tea time 10th Jul 2018 12:58
To anyone contemplating writing to GL be very cautious , never ever be taken in by the “no threat just reporting culture “
anything you disclose may or will be used against you . I know of several people that wish they had never put pen to paper .
Don’t expand . The weather was horrible so we diverted . End of communication .

OK4Wire 10th Jul 2018 23:06
What TeaTime said. Short sentences, few words, absolute minimum info, write in the third person.

positionalpor 11th Jul 2018 13:25
DIlbert: spot on!

JammedStab 11th Jul 2018 14:46
Originally Posted by crwkunt roll (Post 10192901)
Maybe because the filed Alternate refused them?
If YOW really refused them and fuel happens to be critical(which it obviously was not in this case), just declare an emergency and land. There is plenty of ramp space in YOW even if no gates are available. Probably the same at most airports.

I doubt they were "refused".

Flex88 11th Jul 2018 23:31
YOW Refused ??
 
Prime Minister Trudeau was probably getting a haircut near the airport so they closed the airspace. Rumour has it he was then going for his skateboard lesson followed by hot yoga..

Apollo19 12th Jul 2018 14:14
Weather that hammered YYZ got YOW as well. They closed YYZ. They made choice to go to YUL.


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