So if it’s a Monday we blame the A scalers, right at the beginning with their huge packages they let the rot start

If it’s a Tuesday we blame the B scalers, they put up a woeful fight and here we are now

If it’s a Wednesday we blame the C scalers, sure the industry has gone to crap and the CX option is still a good one but that’s irrelevant

If it’s a Thursday we blame the C&Ters, they could maybe bring the company to its knees, they’d probably get fired for it but the rest of us wouldn’t and that’s a sacrifice the rest of us are willing to take

If it’s a Friday we blame everyone who caved in in 1999, and since most of the GC weren’t around in 1999 we have to repeat the mistakes made then. Can anyone say lemmings, cliff

Whats left?

MC, you are becoming tedious and predictable. So, your latest attempt to sow dissension is to try and turn pilot against pilot. Pathetic. The vast majority of us are united against the type of cretin you represent. And btw, as a former C and T, we always have the legal right to return to the line. Already confirmed by the labour court. C and T's resign every day (as I did recently), so don't try and throw the old 'you'll be fired' line. It fascinates me how you can't see just how close to the old Soviet and Nazi mindset your thinking represents. A legacy to be proud of. Don't try and intimidate any of us. The days of that having any effect are gone. Either we don't care, or we are already close to leaving. Either case, you and your kind are toothless and venal. Look at yourself in the mirror and try and recognise the creature you have become. At least the pilots can look at themselves in that same mirror and see someone who represents something noble, someone who contributes something positive to society. You, you aren't worth the air you breathe.

MorningCoffee. You sit in your office (cubicle) and try and wind up 3000+ educated, savvy and cynical pilots. Pilots who are sick to the teeth of the very thing you represent. Sick of it because we instinctively understand just how corrosive and toxic you and your kind are. Keep coming on here and making your sad attempts to divide us. Guess what, you are spitting into the wind. I, and most of my colleagues have already decided to leave for better employers. We don't care anymore. As a matter of fact, we take great pleasure in hurting you and your goals. You will be busy enough soon trying to keep the Government and public at bay when you have to explain why CX's operation is in pieces, with parked aircraft and no pilots. It's liberating when you just don't care anymore, and you already have another career planned. And btw, you will probably need to plan another career move yourself soon as well.

ps. one of my course partners is starting his new job Jan 8th. He told me that two other CX FO's were interviewing the same week as he. Apparently they have all been offered positions. The exodus gathers steam.

His nom-de-guerre should be ‘Morning Kool-Ade’.

And yet whilst reading your comments pleases me Trafalgar, I am dismally unconvinced that what you are saying is reality. Already in the last 2 weeks, a number of senior guys that I have flown with have already seemed to resign themselves to the fact that we are going to ‘get screwed again’ and that ‘its going to happen whether we like it or not’. I just can’t believe that there are so many pilots in this airline who remain so intimidated by this company’s past actions and are prepared to sit back and take the pineapple while others are trying to fight the worthy battle on their behalf.

I have flown for multiple airlines in the past 12 years and I can swear on my childrens lives that I have never met such a bunch of sell outs as I have in the last 5 years here. Seriously - we are in the throws of getting the biggest pineapple known to man after have been fed pineapple for the last however long and yet we still have pilots that show up to company organised functions (747 drinks most recently), we still have pilots that are putting their smug faces on company propaganda (latest cargo clan as an example) and there seems to be no roar, in fact not even so much as a mere squeak of defiance as to what is potentially approaching??

I mean seriously - the amount of guys that said if this company touch ARAPA they would be on the first flight out..... now all of a sudden they are saying ‘well we will just wait and see what they are going to offer’.

Its worse to watch than an abused woman going back to her wife beating husband time and time again because deep down she believes that he is only doing it because he really loves her.

I deeply hope that the masses in this airline will prove me wrong and I will gladly walk the line if it comes to that (which I am beginning to hope it will) - however the more I look around, the more disappointed, despondent and damn right pissed off I am starting to become.

I was one of six who started together in ADL on a Sunday afternoon a few years ago. I am the only one still here....

Trafalgar / AirProfit

Funny how it is always people you have talked to or know who are leaving and taking the advice you keep giving here. However, BOTH of you are still here. Reminds me of 1999 when we had the PILOT walks through TST, Airport terminal, Focus nights etc. People like you talk the TALK but NEVER WALK the WALK. Always wanting someone else to leave to make things better for you!
What a wasted few years post1999 were, money lost in offers not taken, 5% to support the casualties, with the usual suspects leaving the AOA so that they did not have to pay. All money LOST and NEVER recouped.

Maybe you need to focus on the comment from 'missingblade', and stop worrying about a few old guys like me. The guts of the airline are leaving, no matter what I personally do. The only thing 'never recouped' will be the pilots this airline will lose to their corporate greed and stupidity.

"The pessimist complains about the wind, the optimist expects it to change, the realist adjusts his sails". Most of the pilots at CX are now 'realists', and they are adjusting their sails. They are actively planning their escape to a better and happier career elsewhere. All the machinations of our management will result in nothing more than an empty shell of an airline. For that is all it will be when it has lost it's most committed employees. The fact of the matter is that they have already lost them in mind, and will soon lose them in body as well. There is an inevitability to the outcome, and the only people who don't see it are our management.