CR, you could put all those lessons on iLearn and people would still not get it!

CR, as my one-time keyboard 'adversary', I can only state with all humility: you sir are a star. What an epic defenestration of the untold abuse, lies, deceit and outright con job this management have perpetrated against us all. You are absolutely correct: stop negotiating !! Straight to court, on every issue every time. Focus on educating the members. And on another point, the reason the company rejected the AOA's "concessions" was because due to us even offering such a thing only allowed our management to conclude we are weak and fearful. They rejected because they believe they can get more. The AOA has actually been played for the fool, and the company has taken the complete opposite attitude that DS and co. were expecting (DS, have you heard the name 'Neville Chamberlain'). That is what happens when you appear weak and conciliatory in the face of threats and intimidation. Nice own goal. Walk away NOW. File the lawsuits on Monday. It's not that difficult. And to my former colleagues in C and T. Time to get out. Do NOT play a small part in your own demise and that of your colleagues.

Fair enough. File on Monday.

Curtain. I haven’t laughed so much since grandma died or Auntie Mabel caught her left tit in the mangle. And the crying shame of it is, it’s all true.
Somebody (in a different post ) mentioned a recent enquiry from a prospective employer as to what had gone wrong with Cathay to precipitate his leaving. Just print that list off. Ta-da !

CR....excellent summation.

I’ll add one more that you forgot: 5/4/3...Ta-da!

How does that famous line go? Those that fail to learn from history....

A famous line by the CX pilot body over the years, after the fact, "how could we be so stupid to let them do that..." actually you weren't stupid, you knew very well, you were just too :mad: scared to stand up each and every time.

Leverage? ..... That's something we had last year. It's been replaced by collaboration.

Curtain,,....take a "like" as you have achieve nail/ head of hammer interface.

CR, add 2 weeks leave gone (I mean given away) in COS 94. That's right, young 'uns: we used to get 8 weeks per year, for everybody.

1 for 1 PT credit.

From a bygone “negotiation”:

Company: “We propose that pilots must work an annual 30 Days of Reserve for free.”

AOA: “Agreed, but this is the last concession we make...furthermore, you must promise to “fill in the blank”, and promise to open up bases”.

Company: “Sure”