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Dragon69 4th Oct 2017 00:29


Originally Posted by cxorcist (Post 9913413)
Obviously, just look at the total 787 vs 350 orders or deliveries. The A350 is clearly favored. Moron!

Yes that's why we have loads of them on order..Idiot!

cxorcist 4th Oct 2017 01:49

That's right, CX is the only airline in the industry!

Orders and Deliveries (as of 31 August 2017):

A350 - 848/107
787 - 1278/589

Statistics can be so inconvenient. Clearly, airline planners around the world prefer the A350.

Pilot_Recruit 4th Oct 2017 02:03

This will probably get lost among the children fighting, but is there any further news on when they may open up the posting?

P.S. The C Series is clearly the most superior aircraft around. Look at how the Americans feel about it...��

lokito50 4th Oct 2017 02:26


Originally Posted by Pilot_Recruit (Post 9913486)
This will probably get lost among the children fighting, but is there any further news on when they may open up the posting?

P.S. The C Series is clearly the most superior aircraft around. Look at how the Americans feel about it...��

Now we're talking baby!

Dragon69 4th Oct 2017 03:04

You must really jerk off to Boeing newsletters!


Statistics can be so inconvenient. Clearly, airline planners around the world prefer the A350.
Yes I am sure that's what Anna was thinking also when she quoted her statistics on housing, but the reality is it's only an inconvenience when used to support a false claim.

Have a read on all the various forums, clearly from a passenger perspective the 350 is the preferred airplane. Then have a look at the price tag and a look at all the LCCs that have 787s. How many LCCs operate 350s.

Not to mention one of the biggest 787 operator is ANA, why?, because they got a huge discount, a discount that was too good to pass. That avoided a costly penalty from delivering the airplane way behind schedule.


But let's get back to your original claim of the 350 being an inferior airplane to the 787. It's not so much that I really give a sh!t, it's more to do with your arrogance of how you know absolutely nothing about the 350 and yet one would think that you're an engineer/test pilot for both manufactures and speak from experience and knowledge, when the reality is you know sh!t.

Does the 787 have runway overrun protection? Does the 787 have an automatic emergency descent system? NO! So it does have certain systems that are ahead of the 787.

This reminds me years ago how you were mocking the autothrust system on the Airbus. No feedback ..blah blah blah. Ironically the 777 has had, not ONE, but TWO crashes as a result of the autothrust system. But let's conveniently overlook that fact, it's a Boeing and therefore no matter it has to be better.

Pilo-Recruit, this is a forum, no one is forcing you to read any of this, so just F*&k O!!

cxorcist 4th Oct 2017 03:52

Wow, what a fan boy! All I did was throw 4 numbers out and you write a five paragraph essay. That's sad. Since you're such a big fan of numbers, I'll send you a few more.

Of the 848 A350 orders, 8 are for the -800, a model which will never be built. Too small and uneconomic they say. Oh really, the -800 would be about the same size as the 787-9 which has 675 orders and a far cry bigger than the 787-8 which has 426 orders. But you're right Dragon, airline planners prefer the A350.

Of the 848 A350 orders, 212 are for the -1000 model, although that number has gotten smaller over the last few months. This aircraft is designed to compete with the 777-300ER which has delivered more than 750 copies and has another 70+ orders to fill. Oh, and the 777X which has 326 orders. But you're right Dragon, airline planner prefer the A350.

You give up yet?

DropKnee 4th Oct 2017 04:01


Originally Posted by Dragon69 (Post 9913523)
You must really jerk off to Boeing newsletters!



Yes I am sure that's what Anna was thinking also when she quoted her statistics on housing, but the reality is it's only an inconvenience when used to support a false claim.

Have a read on all the various forums, clearly from a passenger perspective the 350 is the preferred airplane. Then have a look at the price tag and a look at all the LCCs that have 787s. How many LCCs operate 350s.

Not to mention one of the biggest 787 operator is ANA, why?, because they got a huge discount, a discount that was too good to pass. That avoided a costly penalty from delivering the airplane way behind schedule.


But let's get back to your original claim of the 350 being an inferior airplane to the 787. It's not so much that I really give a sh!t, it's more to do with your arrogance of how you know absolutely nothing about the 350 and yet one would think that you're an engineer/test pilot for both manufactures and speak from experience and knowledge, when the reality is you know sh!t.

Does the 787 have runway overrun protection? Does the 787 have an automatic emergency descent system? NO! So it does have certain systems that are ahead of the 787.

This reminds me years ago how you were mocking the autothrust system on the Airbus. No feedback ..blah blah blah. Ironically the 777 has had, not ONE, but TWO crashes as a result of the autothrust system. But let's conveniently overlook that fact, it's a Boeing and therefore no matter it has to be better.

Pilo-Recruit, this is a forum, no one is forcing you to read any of this, so just F*&k O!!

I would argue the crash in SFO was a idiot pilots issue. Not the auto-throttle. It did exactly what is was suppose to do.

Dragon69 4th Oct 2017 04:16


This aircraft is designed to compete with the 777-300ER which has delivered more than 750 copies and has another 70+ orders to fill
Are you seriously now suggesting that even the outdated ER is a better airplane than the 350?... and comparing orders when it's been in production since early 2000. Oh boy!

The 350 is about to take over NAM operations and you're still completely blinded by your arrogance. I suggest you go and talk them out of it because clearly they lack the information and intelligence that you seem to have.

Have a nice day!

Dilbert68 4th Oct 2017 08:22

Dragon 69,

By your username I can only assume you are working for KA?

Why are you getting so worked up about the 787 vs 350? KA won't be seeing either of them, so keep flogging your 20+ year old airbus to China.

Pilot_Recruit 4th Oct 2017 18:01


Originally Posted by Dragon69 (Post 9913523)
Pilo-Recruit, this is a forum, no one is forcing you to read any of this, so just F*&k O!!

Nah. It is infinitely more fun to wind someone up.

P.S. You don't have to censor the word off.

altiplano 8th Oct 2017 04:03


Originally Posted by Telfer86 (Post 9910912)
Any aptitude testing ?

No aptitude testing - sim etc...

But there is a psychological evaluation - some on this thread ought to take note...

Trafalgar 8th Oct 2017 04:22

Are you suggesting Canadians can’t prove they are insane...?? :-)

altiplano 8th Oct 2017 04:36

542 open spots on current equipment bid.

AC is currently hiring roughly 30 every 3 weeks right now.

Many are from AC's regional feeder airlines with most of the others from military/Air Transat/Westjet backgrounds.

New hire pay is less than ideal for the first few years if you remain in an RP/FO seat.

Seats on offer at joining are:
FO EMJ/320/737/767
RP 787/777

Junior EMJ190 Captain is about 1 year.
Junior 320 or 737 Captain is about 3 year.

New hires have a new pension scheme which seems promising.
Overall decent benefits, disability, life insurance, stock matching, profit share trigger linked to executive payouts, etc.

You will earn a good pay cheque at AC, after your first couple years, esp. if you go Captain early... but we certainly lag US pay levels, and I suspect many other large network carriers... and we pay Canadian taxes...

Not sure what
"- 5 J class FOC per year for Capts"
posted above means...
but I don't think we have that...
Pilots/families get 3 high priority J passes per year, but they are not POS space... still ultimately standby, but top of the list more or less.

Scheduling is PBS but it has its problems... unproductive pairings primarily on narrowbody fleets leave most at work for 15 days a month... Junior pilots on widebodies are working 18-20 days.

I've read the application window isn't open - maybe everyone we're hiring has an application in from before. Or maybe you need to create your profile and then apply... I don't know, but good luck. If you looking to come home, things haven't ever been moving this fast...

Willing to Fly 10th Oct 2017 05:12

AC had contracts to hire x% from their feeders over the last couple of years. They have mostly gone through their requirements and have began hiring from the street again. I'm told a new posting should come up again near the end of the year. I'm told they have a good solid pool of people they're trying to flush out right now. Most of those are coming from WestJet, WestJet Encore and a couple of other off the street smaller airlines and charter within Canada.
Upgrades can be had in about 18 months if you take the first available slot. They start getting the first of 100 new 737's next spring. Rumour has it that the captains will go super junior and possibly right to new hires. Again, you may have to take what ever base they are at.
The 5 J class seats refers to upgrades when you travel standby. They will no longer upgrade anyone when traveling unless you use one of your 5 tickets per year. I think (but don't quote me) that they would rather go with those seats empty than 'upgrade' an employee or recriprocal/ZED pilot.

Thats what I know as of now.

oriental flyer 10th Oct 2017 10:05

If I was younger I would apply . It may not be the best paid gig around but you get to live in a country with a good lifestyle depending on your base of course

altiplano 10th Oct 2017 17:33


Originally Posted by Willing to Fly (Post 9920048)
AC had contracts to hire x% from their feeders over the last couple of years. They have mostly gone through their requirements and have began hiring from the street again. I'm told a new posting should come up again near the end of the year. I'm told they have a good solid pool of people they're trying to flush out right now. Most of those are coming from WestJet, WestJet Encore and a couple of other off the street smaller airlines and charter within Canada.
Upgrades can be had in about 18 months if you take the first available slot. They start getting the first of 100 new 737's next spring. Rumour has it that the captains will go super junior and possibly right to new hires. Again, you may have to take what ever base they are at.
The 5 J class seats refers to upgrades when you travel standby. They will no longer upgrade anyone when traveling unless you use one of your 5 tickets per year. I think (but don't quote me) that they would rather go with those seats empty than 'upgrade' an employee or recriprocal/ZED pilot.

Thats what I know as of now.

Some of your info is off..

737max - 61 firm orders have just started arriving this month

CS300 - 45 firm orders start arriving in about 18 months

Junior 737/320 CA is around 3 years.

Junior EMJ CA is around 1 year.

Toronto is the junior base for upgrades. Junior CA in YVR about 7 years.

It's not 5 J class upgrades when you travel stby - it's 3/year and it's not POS or a guaranteed upgrade. It is a high priority pass - B1/J09 - standard stby travel is C2/Y10 - and the upgrade is after all coupons and points upgrades.

You won't get upgraded on standard pass travel unless J is the last open seat on the plane... Agents took advantage of it in the past and so we all get F-d...

There it is...

Freehills 11th Oct 2017 01:36

Presume need to be Canadian citizen/ landed PR?

hkgcanuck 11th Oct 2017 23:38

Must have right to work in Canada.

LongTimeInCX 12th Oct 2017 00:46


Must have the right to work in Canada
Claim asylum. As a persecuted hk expat, you'd only have to show them anywhere up to 20 years of documented abuse, fear, threats and intimidation by ones current slave master to qualify.
Then, there's a good chance, that after you are processed as an asylum seeker, ask for the "no work" limitation on the visa to be lifted.
After all, the tree hugging liberal Canadian govt seems to enjoy taking in hoards of 3rd world passport seekers to dilute the historical Anglo Saxon gene pool majority.

It's worked well in UK, Sweden, France and the good ol' US of A to mention just a few.
Hasn't it?


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