Look they screwed up for whatever reason , their procedures , fatigue , misunderstanding of ATC , who knows . The fact remains that there is a SID in place for terrain reasons . It’s totally unambiguous and very simple . If this crew were so unaware of the terrain surrounding the airport then they should not be coming to HK . Unfortunately until the findings of the report have been published we won’t know . But I see absolutely no reason to change ATC procedures for one screw up
As drop knee said we need more airmanship and situational awareness than rules |
Heard it was a new pilot and
ATC canceled Porpa speed constraint. The pilot ended up deleting the constraint from the L 1 key rather than R 1 thereby deleting Porpa altogether. |
It doesn’t matter , I have had lots of pilots make errors like that , even accidentally deleting the entire route .
As the Capt you go back to basic modes and follow the SID until you can reset the FMC . It’s not rocket science it’s a thing called airmanship . What is needed is a pause for cross checking especially on a SID . |
Originally Posted by bpp
(Post 10000977)
Heard it was a new pilot and
ATC canceled Porpa speed constraint. The pilot ended up deleting the constraint from the L 1 key rather than R 1 thereby deleting Porpa altogether.
Originally Posted by Airbubba
(Post 9902716)
Did some finger trouble drop out PORPA and perhaps LNAV was taking them direct PORSH? :confused:
Originally Posted by cannot
(Post 10000990)
It doesn’t matter , I have had lots of pilots make errors like that , even accidentally deleting the entire route .
As the Capt you go back to basic modes and follow the SID until you can reset the FMC . It’s not rocket science it’s a thing called airmanship . What is needed is a pause for cross checking especially on a SID . |
In a modern Airbus, if the TO WYPT is deleted the A/P goes into heading mode on the current heading....what will a Boeing do? Notwithstanding the fact that airmanship dictates not turning towards terrain no matter what the A/P might want to do...
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