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Freehills 4th May 2017 04:38


Originally Posted by Avinthenews (Post 9760537)
CX apparently is only getting 11.5hrs utilisation per day.

If they could get that up to 13, that's the equivalent of adding the 2 Atlas aircraft.

Wasn't CX a market leader for aircraft utilisation back in the good old days?

A quick search shows how out of wack CX is.

Fromm the annual report - page 112-113. 2016 for B748/ 744F combined 11.7 hours. Highest in the last 10 years was 2010 @ 14.4 hours. As the fleet is 20 aircraft, that would be the equivalent of 3-4 extra aircraft if we were back at 2010 utilisation

Bob Hawke 4th May 2017 05:00

The CMP can also be added to the fail list of items to win.

Farman Biplane 4th May 2017 07:50

Ever wondered if they want us to stay in contract compliance so that they will have the ultimate excuse in the future......

The Visionary 4th May 2017 09:09

It's not time to win, it's TIME TO LEAVE!

Keep some things in mind. Canada, 'Merica and Australia ALL have TA's. They forgot Scope though. Although on the surface it appears to really affect those of us based in HKG, it in fact affects EVERYONE. These are jobs. Upgrades/Promotions etc... SO's are having their upgrades postponed as punishment. I hope this sends a message to all those new joiners of what kind of company you have joined. It is the beginning of what is to come.

Perhaps all those that joined the ever popular chief in the bar for drinks recently, right when this was being announced, can practice saying, "Nat in da butte sir"! Meaning he's lubing you up for the next rogering. HE IS NOT ON OUR SIDE! You will see this when push comes to shove, Trust Me!

It honestly amazes me that people still engage management, especially these days. Things are not being fixed and the decisions being made are out of spite and are just ridiculous. The double talk is truly amazing. GUYS AND GALS, STOP TALKING TO THEM!

I have said this before and will say it again, the BIG ONE is coming as it has before.

I hope the union contacts the Atlas pilots union about this as it is just unacceptable. Ironic as the Atlas pilots are in the same position.

So, we either need to prepare to leave OR GO ON STRIKE! It is the only way we can get their attention or they will keep effing with us.

IT'S NOT TIME TO WIN, IT'S TIME TO LEAVE.

The Visionary 4th May 2017 09:17

Oh and Btw, The Hogg is going to be the Rock, "Can you smell what the Hogg is cooking"?

He is a lieutenant in the Swire Mob and is being Upped by Slosar. And you don't get "Upped" unless you are willing to do what needs to be done for the greater good of the "Mob".

It's coming guys and gals.

mngmt mole 4th May 2017 09:28

And who exactly were the 40 Captains and their 'families' who recently dined with our esteemed management? Plonkers, every single one of them. It's like smoking in the year 2017: after all this time you know it's bad for you, and you know it will cause your 'death'. To keep doing it in spite of all the evidence means you have extremely poor personal judgement.

What will this management have to do to get the rest of you to at the VERY LEAST stop playing a part in their pathetic pantomime of "pretending to care". Stop being a useful idiot for heavens sake. :ugh::rolleyes:

mngmt mole 4th May 2017 09:31

Visionary. You are correct, but at this point I don't care anymore. They can bring it on, i'm ready to do my small part to screw with them at every opportunity. Once you stop fearing them it is quite liberating, and ultimately leads to a certain sense of peace, no matter what the situation. This latest move with Atlas is just another sign of their desperation and incompetence.

The Visionary 4th May 2017 09:33

AtlasFacts.org

http://aircargoworld.com/dhl-pilots-...air-worldwide/

8driver 4th May 2017 10:31

Word is the fleet office was taken by surprise at the announcement. So they say anyway.

broadband circuit 4th May 2017 14:06


Word is the fleet office was taken by surprise at the announcement. So they say anyway.
To anyone who's not in CX thinking that this is not possible, I'm here to tell you that I would be absolutely shocked if the fleet office had any pre-advice of this decision

Dan Winterland 4th May 2017 14:28

Seems the airline is being deliberately driven into the ground. To what end?

GTC58 4th May 2017 19:01

Rumour has that a couple of ERF's are returned to their respective leasing company to save cost. Atlas just providing the lost lift via ACMI.

cxorcist 4th May 2017 22:09


Originally Posted by Steve the Pirate (Post 9760550)
As Atlas Shrugs, it would be appropriate to say, "Who is John Galt?".

STP

Love it!!!

Atlas Shrugged 5th May 2017 03:27


As Atlas Shrugs, it would be appropriate to say, "Who is John Galt?".
:suspect::suspect:

cxorcist 5th May 2017 05:57


Originally Posted by Dan Buster (Post 9761553)
Put this in the CX 'missed opportunity' pile.

I almost miss Rhodent...

Farman Biplane 6th May 2017 00:29

So, we dry lease two 747F to Air Hong Kong and then we wet lease two back from Atlas? All the while we have many pilots flying well under their monthly credit hours?
TTW?

White None 6th May 2017 15:49

Thread Drift but please can we arrange an ACMI event 2v2 Boeing vs Airbus? 1 Minute regeneration, points for nose in the vertical?

Booger 6th May 2017 16:31

Blanco nada
 
If only our "Time To Win" managers subscribed to the first rule of Defensive BFM.

Shep69 6th May 2017 16:59


Originally Posted by White None (Post 9762978)
Thread Drift but please can we arrange an ACMI event 2v2 Boeing vs Airbus? 1 Minute regeneration, points for nose in the vertical?

My money's on the Boeing 'cuz it'll let you do what you need to do. Not sure how much fun a 2.5 g rate fight would be in lumbering giants though ......

cxorcist 7th May 2017 04:12


Originally Posted by Booger (Post 9763012)
If only our "Time To Win" managers subscribed to the first rule of Defensive BFM.

Don't get gunned off the perch...


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