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Max Reheat 31st Mar 2017 14:12

Dart,

Are you pissed!

Captain Dart 31st Mar 2017 22:24

Nope, just issues with iPad keyboard. I have made a similar post elsewhere, the point I am trying to make is that to me, a fresh management, even mainland, could be no worse than the current incumbents.

As I've also said, I have heard 'CX is going to be sold to the Chinese' throughout my near 3 decades in the airline. I guess it has to eventuate if you predict it long enough.

ron burgandy 31st Mar 2017 23:03

I agree Dart. Talk to expats at Chinese airlines. Pilots are still treated with respect and not seen as the enemy.
I can't understand the fear of being sold, it's not like it could be any worse wrt to how management view and treat us.

boocs 4th Apr 2017 02:40

https://blogs.crikey.com.au/planetal...hould-we-care/

b.

RRAAMJET 5th Apr 2017 00:45

It really, really saddens me to read this. Friend says things are chaotic.
I just have happy memories of flying for what was then absolutely the world's #1 carrier, and by far the most difficult to get hired into.
Their flying and training standards at Kai Tak will never be equaled.
Very sad....the rot was obvious after HKG handover, when I left.

Geez, even Rod Eddington said I was making a sound decision when I asked him at cocktail party on the Island....and he left...

Captain Dart 5th Apr 2017 00:54

Red Oddington started the rot.

LongTimeInCX 5th Apr 2017 02:33

When Rod called us 'Million Dollar Morons', he showed the true envy that management have for the aircrew body, that they can not do without.
He and the subsequent incumbents dislike the reality that:
1) we are needed, because like it or not, planes do not currently fly themselves.
2) few, if any of the senior management could do our job, whereas many of the crew in CX could do their job very well, and it wouldn't take a 3 month conversion course.

mngmt mole 6th Apr 2017 01:51

Dan. That comment sums it up perfectly. They should be ashamed of themselves, but of course, then know no shame.

Starbear 7th Apr 2017 14:15

From the Friday Pravda


Industrial Escalation
In an attempt to further harm the operations of the company at this critical time, the HKAOA has escalated
their industrial action on the Training Captain Ban, by asking global pilot unions to also ban the training of
Cathay pilots. This action by the HKAOA is at odds with the efforts of teams across the airline as they work
together to ensure the future financial success of Cathay.
Or perhaps another way to look at this Anna, might be to consider your own disastrous handling of the issues thus far. If these had been dealt with,with even a modicum of integrity and simple honesty, the current situation would probably not even prevail.

Hugo Peroni the IV 7th Apr 2017 14:42

I'm perplexed. How is just doing my job, to the highest of standards and not volunteering for training (which I am not obliged to do) seen as industrial action?

But then again, we are dealing with a woman! Hard done to, apparently, every one of them.




Originally Posted by Starbear (Post 9732445)
From the Friday Pravda



Or perhaps another way to look at this Anna, might be to consider your own disastrous handling of the issues thus far. If these had been dealt with,with even a modicum of integrity and simple honesty, the current situation would probably not even prevail.


BusyB 7th Apr 2017 14:44

But Anna, Rupert says all the staff are on side!!!!

Shep69 7th Apr 2017 15:52


Originally Posted by Starbear (Post 9732445)
From the Friday Pravda



Or perhaps another way to look at this Anna, might be to consider your own disastrous handling of the issues thus far. If these had been dealt with,with even a modicum of integrity and simple honesty, the current situation would probably not even prevail.

Perhaps whoever wrote the section in the update might do well to spend less time lamenting and more time considering the wisdom of Oliver Wendell Holmes.

' If it be true that workingmen may combine with a view, among other things, to getting as much as they can for their labor, just as capital may combine with a view to getting the greatest possible return, it must be true that, when combined, they have the same liberty that combined capital has, to support their interests by argument, persuasion, and the bestowal or refusal of those advantages which they otherwise lawfully control.'


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