So, what is it about this time, CAD
 

Delayed take-off: Further hold up for HK$1.5 billion Raytheon AutoTrac III air traffic control system

http://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/p...c-iii#comments

Does this mean CX will be trying to claw back leave/Unpaid Leave that it has allocated in November. They should make a tv show about this comedy act.

The article is dated March!

Might help to check the date of the article...
This article is from March

Do try to keep up Hopeless.

It was actually in use yesterday during the phased introduction.

I love the sensationalistic $1.5 Billion as well; It was less than a 1/3 of that and you'd be struggling to buy the engines for 1 A380 for that. And we're handling 2,200 flights a day now? Chicken feed.

HK urgently needs air traffic controllers: aviation chief | South China Morning Post

We need many more now for the new system.

What is this?? A competition to see who can dig up the oldest news story???!

Grossly short of human resources nevertheless.
Hint for THB: it's not just about the HKIA traffic.

New centre layout??

http://cdn.obsidianportal.com/assets/123119/slaves4.jpg

Therefore, more of these??

http://www.joserodriguez.info/bloc/w...//BenHur07.jpg

How was the PFI on approach today? Anyone knows?

Smooth it seems. Traffic light tho due typhoon Megi.


More important, when is CAD going to comply with ICAO Doc 4444?:


8.4.2 The number of aircraft simultaneously provided with ATS surveillance services shall not exceed that which can safely be handled under the prevailing circumstances, taking into account:


a) the structural complexity of the control area or sector concerned;


b) the functions to be performed within the control area or sector concerned;


c) assessments of controller workloads, taking into account different aircraft capabilities, and sector capacity; and


d) the degree of technical reliability and availability of the primary and backup communications, navigation and surveillance systems, both in the aircraft and on the ground.




Has they ever done c)????


May be Apple Daily and SCMP can ask.

Don't worry mate! They have conducted a very strong SAFETY CASE report that the new system is safe to use.

Everything is so smooth, ready to go with the new useless system.

Here is the chemistry :

Severe Shortage of Controller to create more Executive/Planner Control Positions + Rough System Testings + Poorly Managed Adaptation + Poor CAD Top Top Management + Rubbish ATM System + Poor New Centre Fung Shui = Catastrophic Failure

The catastrophic failure in the last Phased Functional Implementation (PFI in short) is a welcome drink, the entree is coming soon. How do you like your steak done? Rare or Blue?

VSD.
Not much argument from me on the rest but please feel free to come over and tell us which of the 10,000+ VSPs you'd like us to change, within the system limits.
Or are you perhaps somebody who has only ever worked with AT1 and thinks that the only way ATC can be done in HK is the way it was done 20 years ago.
I hate to break it to you but we are the speed bump in the Region now, holding up reduced surveillance separation, simplified handling and just generally a lot less draconian attitude to what the job of an ANSP actually is.
No system, no matter what we bought , be it even the most expensive, expects ATC to be done in such an old fashioned way.
The latest Thales product does not even come with an EFS, so how the hell would we cope???
Funnily enough, places that HK controllers might think are backward are actually more progressive.
And before you get too excited about how busy HK is; even Jakarta Centre has more movements per day. (No disrespect to Jakarta- I chose that as there is this notion that our overflight situation is so unbelievable, when in fact several other FIRs have larger and more complex route structures with vastly more complicated mix of traffic types)

Easy fix: put a couple of Lions out the front and Viola". It's what Phillip C did during his CEO stint at Cathay and they have been killing it ever since!

Thales is known to have deployed integrated EFS solution since 2011 and demonstrated IPad EFS since 2013.

My flight is TCAS equipped
 

:ok: We have TCAS.

OMG>>>new software build days before opening (are you serious??) and ridiculous low confidence level and insufficient hands on hours and absolutely unready mindset.....

They are making broth for their customers:

http://img10.deviantart.net/d630/i/2...a7-d39fv62.jpg

Which airlines will drink this first? Management has to make sure each controller under the pyramids is handcuffed (the cup holders) in his console so that he won't run away when something happens. They have to go to jail because they said they were Level 3, 4, 5 in their Phased Functional Implementation Self Assessment Form. Those said they were Level 5 are criminal acts; you give up your right you deserve it.

FIX THE :mad: SYSTEM

For anything associates with the word "Risk", Just look at AirServicesAustralia's recent assessment on Raytheon. I agree with them.
http://www.pprune.org/members/451968...aytheonasa.jpg
http://www.pprune.org/members/451968...ytheonasa2.jpg

What are those pics?