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Algol 19th Sep 2016 06:30


CX has its 70th birthday coming up next weekend.
Hong Kong Airlines orders nine Airbus A330 jets in US$2.3 billion deal | South China Morning Post

MANY HAPPY RETURNS!

ozziekiwi 19th Sep 2016 06:54

ALGOL ??


What's that got to do with Typhoon Meranti ???? Bit off thread isn't it ??


Just wondering !!!!!

Algol 19th Sep 2016 08:57

True. But when the personal insults are flying - what do they expect?
I'm not one for corporate BS myself actually. It's not how I define myself, having worked in several companies, and at least one being streets ahead of anything I see here.
The original question was general in nature, but the corporate shills from CX took it as a personal slight on their company (and therefore themselves) and hijacked the thread.

swh 19th Sep 2016 09:01


Got a reference for that? Not saying it not true - just interested in why you quote particular number.
Any ATPL text book would cover it. Here is a lazy source for you Convective Weather



The CX flight that encountered hail was climbing out of HKG according to AVHerald.
Departed HKG but not in the HKG FIR at the time. It was still in climb.


Pretty busy airspace. Yet it was the only aircraft that seems to have reported a serious hail encounter. How come? Did all the rest succesfully avoid it (even without magic radar)?
When you can show me the list of CAAC reported incidents for the day then I will entertain answering the baseless statement.


You've missed the point mate, just as you've done all along.
Don't think so, at every turn I have been able to explain factually and logically why this happen, and most of this is basic knowledge.


The point being '**** happens'
Sure it does, that is why people buy insurance. Running off a runway at CNS because you cannot execute a 180 in an airliner on a marked turning is not such a case, being unable to understand simple EO SID instructuctions is not the case, flying through magenta radar returns is not the case.


The three examples of CX turbulence/CB encounters were not attacks on CX crews - they were an illustration that your attacks on OTHER crews are stupid and arrogant.
All three events were in clear air, which is a case of unfortunate circumstances. It is vastly different to flying an aircraft into an area painted as magenta on the radar display.

Remember what this thread was about, your unfounded claim that flying through a typhoon at altitude in itself is a hazard, and that your management would not listen to your concerns because CX crews were flying through the same weather without an issue.


I guess we'll have to wait for the outcome of the Official Report on that CX incident to find out exactly how many NM(30+?) they were from the nearest CB, and why nobody else took a hit.
Why would there be an official report ?


Were they not on a SID? Did they deviate into the WX?
Not in HKG FIR, in clear air.


The report (in its crappy english) says the crew went for a gap between two cells 40Nm apart.
The report says they went through an area painted magenta, what I would have done differently is during the climb and at top of climb adjusted the tilt of the radar so I was scanning what was infront and blelow the path, not 5 degrees up.

McNugget 19th Sep 2016 09:14

lol.

So, you've been proven an incompetent idiot, with a total lack of met basics, then argued like a fool about something you (alarmingly) know little about, so you post an article about a (whopping) 9 aircraft order at your employer.

That showed everyone.

You look like a moron. Give it up.

JAYTO 19th Sep 2016 11:11

9 aircraft.... holy crap. thats insane....

They should have ordered an even 10 and really showed every one up

lol


J

Algol 20th Sep 2016 08:51


Departed HKG but not in the HKG FIR at the time. It was still in climb.
The point being it was on an Airway/SID in some of the busiest airspace in China, but only CX got hit.


All three events were in clear air, which is a case of unfortunate circumstances.
Clearly not - where did the hail come from? Why did your colleagues not avoid the CB by at least 30NM as you advocate? Negilgence!


Running off a runway at CNS because you cannot execute a 180 in an airliner on a marked turning is not such a case
Where does this come from? Who did so?

Why would there be an official report ?
Because damage was done to the aircraft.

The report says they went through an area painted magenta, what I would have done differently is during the climb and at top of climb adjusted the tilt of the radar so I was scanning what was infront and blelow the path, not 5 degrees up.
Like your buddies in the Hail encounter should've done.


They should have ordered an even 10 and really showed every one up
Actually there are a couple more 330's due this year, aside from that order, then the 15 A350's start arriving next year. The total current a/c in the whole fleet is 33, becoming 35 by years end, then the 9 A330's plus 15 A350's. That'll be 59.
CX is what? 49?
The times they are a-changin' boys!

McNugget 20th Sep 2016 09:04

49? Are you sure about that? Add 100 and you'll be in the ballpark.

5 350s delivered with 43 more to come, I believe. 21 777X immediately after. So, twice as many orders as HKAs entire fleet.

Why are you here? To question the professionalism or training of CX pilots? Nice. Careful with those stones in your (thin-paned) glass house.

Oasis 20th Sep 2016 09:14

More and more it seems Argol is out to prove something, that his airline is just as good as ours. (and i'm sure it is!)

Take care Argol, don't derive you self worth from what people think of you, just derive it from what you think of you.

Pontius 20th Sep 2016 10:24


The report (in its crappy english)
Ahhh, irony :rolleyes:


Actually there are a couple more 330's due this year, aside from that order, then the 15 A350's start arriving next year. The total current a/c in the whole fleet is 33, becoming 35 by years end, then the 9 A330's plus 15 A350's. That'll be 59.
While you ponder comprehension of the English language, have a look at apostrophes versus plurals and possession.

MTBUR 20th Sep 2016 12:03

His "49" was a reference, I would say.

Hugo Peroni the IV 21st Sep 2016 02:42

Algol must be related to DCP Airbus......didn't he lose his temper on Yammer because a couple of guys challenged him about needless apostrophes?

Algol 21st Sep 2016 03:50

You guys in CX spend a lot of time at work looking for needless apostrophes?
No wonder your company is fast approaching bankruptcy.
HKA will take your A350's. You might be allowed in too - after a rigorous interview and epic Sim check.


SJW:"instructuctions"
And a spelling test..:D

Hugo Peroni the IV 21st Sep 2016 06:36

Did you find the little sim check difficult Algol?

You're sounding very much like a Cat D FO who couldn't hack it at CX.


Originally Posted by Algol (Post 9514668)
You guys in CX spend a lot of time at work looking for needless apostrophes?
No wonder your company is fast approaching bankruptcy.
HKA will take your A350's. You might be allowed in too - after a rigorous interview and epic Sim check.


And a spelling test..:D


Algol 21st Sep 2016 06:47

I kicked CX to the kerb when you were still in nappies.
You haven't progressed much since I note.


49? Are you sure about that? Add 100 and you'll be in the ballpark.

5 350s delivered with 43 more to come, I believe. 21 777X immediately after. So, twice as many orders as HKAs entire fleet
So they won't be retiring any of those twenty year old bangers you fly!

This is fun, innit! Your turn!

LongTimeInCX 21st Sep 2016 07:48

I thought he was writing with a funny accent.
I always find it hard to decipher bull**** from petulant children.
Algol, you're a total tool. If you can't tell by now that almost everyone on this thread is laughing at your puerile comments, then you are even more immature than you portray.
Just do us all a favour and shove the keyboard where the sun doesn't shine.
I'm sure it will fit judging by the volume of crap that's come out of said orifice and onto this thread.


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