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Bustergonad 1st Aug 2016 01:37

CX807 delayed on 28/7 - disgusting display by ID passenger
 
I am a retiree and was hoping to get on the Chicago flight, which was delayed for all number of reasons - and ultimately held over for a day. When check-in reconvened 24 hours later, I witnessed a senior crew (Training Captain - since verified) booked to fly FOC J class go up to the flight's Captain and dress him down for "ruining my f***ing travel plans", then yelled at him about not exercising CD to carry out the original flight. It turned out the front end of the aircraft was now full, only seats in Y class, so this guy would have to go to the back of the bus. Anyway, his little tantrum was done in front of other crew, staff, and passengers in the public check-in area. Disgraceful display by someone flying ID who should know better - and won't do much to dispel widely held beliefs that CX pilots are pampered and overpaid.

ACMS 1st Aug 2016 09:58

One guy out of 3,000 and you paint us all with the same brush ( wing )

Arfur Dent 1st Aug 2016 11:16

Name please - or report the incident direct to CX.:=

mtc 1st Aug 2016 11:31

And we're the entitled generation. :rolleyes:

betpump5 1st Aug 2016 16:48

Oh please please let's have a name or at least a description. No need for PMs. This is a 'rumour' network after all :) Name and Shame

jetsam 1st Aug 2016 20:15

Aircraft was tech
 
I left this aircraft in ORD after a diversion. It was discovered to have a U/S Hyd pump which delayed it and nothing to do with the CN on the receiving end. Yes, I too have come across ' old school' guys like this with an entitlement issue. Unbelievable and needs his staff travel withdrawn a while.

Hugo Peroni the IV 1st Aug 2016 23:47

I would have loved to have had this prick on my flight......if that is how he acts on the ground, how would he act in the air? Imagine the look on his face when offloaded for abusive pre-flight behavior?

Certainly a missed opportunity from the Captain on the day.


Originally Posted by Anotherday (Post 9458734)
So an employee on staff travel can force a skipper to go into Discretion by threatening him and the behaviour is viewed by the company and AOA as completely acceptable?

You pull any crap with EK and their staff travel and you lose it for a year, no warnings, no reminders.


XFR8 2nd Aug 2016 00:27

The usual suspects fall for it again
 
Clue in the last para people. Don't fall for this sort of wind up.

Dilbert68 2nd Aug 2016 00:29

Shouldn't be too hard to find out who it is. The operating Captain can easily take it to the next level if he chooses to do so. I think losing staff travel for awhile should be the minimum penalty that this guy receives. CX does not like to look bad in public, if a passenger were to complain about this incident, a loss of staff travel would be the least of his worries.

From a distance 2nd Aug 2016 01:38

So bustergonad's first post manages to include a concluding sentence about CX pilots being pampered and overpaid.
How did he manage to verify the supposedly guilty party's position. I doubt for one minute that such a total disregard for professional courtesy was demonstrated.
Sounds like a windup at best or malicious attempt to create mischief at worst.

Captain Dart 2nd Aug 2016 01:56

He wrote about the WIDELY HELD BELIEFS that CX pilots are pampered and overpaid. And from my personal experience, the perception is still out there and, if true, reinforced by this behaviour in front of ground staff and passengers.

And the guy's also got the hide to be training his own eventual cheap replacements to boot. But the perception will still be there long after his terms and conditions have been whittled away.

Evanelpus 2nd Aug 2016 09:20

OP's first post, c'mon, this is obviously someone with an axe to grind or a total troll.:D

If he's not, then he should put up or shut up!

oriental flyer 2nd Aug 2016 09:27

Personally I don't believe it . I have never had an issue with a staff passenger , passengers yes staff no,

Captain Dart 2nd Aug 2016 09:52

Maybe he was another medicated manager.

PNM 2nd Aug 2016 11:01

The only staff traveller issues I've had are the ones who don't thank the CN for the J/S. Yep, last sentence in the OP is the clue.

Gnadenburg 2nd Aug 2016 11:26


The only staff traveller issues I've had are the ones who don't thank the CN for the J/S. Yep, last sentence in the OP is the clue.
You know gracious folks are often blocked by the Cabin Crew from saying thanks to the Capt for the J/S? And you can't be sure if a message of thanks is passed on either.

I approved dozens of CX staff for the J/S last month and although I wasn't upset nobody said thanks I found it kind of strange. Looked back a few days ago and a couple of F/A's bearing gifts were being told I was too busy.

This place is getting weirder by the day.

Bustergonad 2nd Aug 2016 12:03

To the cynics on here (and those pilots who seriously think you are beyond reproach), I'm not part of your strife with management and this isn't my first post on PP.

Married to a former crew, and if you want to verify my story, go ahead. To the credit of the Captain I don't think he'll do anything - water under the bridge apparently. But, the senior cabin crew will almost certainly file a report. The arrogant, and frankly abusive passenger, upset the crew and passengers definitely spotted that this guy was staff.

VR-HFX 2nd Aug 2016 12:22

Buster

Crawl back under the rock you came out from under.

No matter how stressed people can get there is no way that scenario could play out.

It has never happened in my living memory of well over 20 years in this company and so out in left field it must be a wind-up.

FlexibleResponse 2nd Aug 2016 12:58

In truth, it probably was Buster's travel plans that were thwarted.

And so, what he wrote was likely his private wet dream of berating and belittling the operating Captain in public.

But he personally didn't actually have the "Gonads" to do it! ;)

He said he is an ID flyer...and well you can guess what sort of roach he is from the public outburst he has made on PPRUNE and the type of wheelbarrow he is attempting to push.


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