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Dan, don't be ridiculous. Why would anyone want to trade a career of chaos and misery for the opportunity to live and work in/near your home, with a recognised first world airline with robust labour law protections and exciting career path (not to mention hosties you can actually tell a joke to)? Sorry man, but you are going to have to do waaaaay better than that to get me to give up the pollution, dirt, non-rostering system, joke rosters, crowds, shoebox apartments, cultured locals and all the other wonderful aspects of living in HK. Don't forget, by staying with CX, you are assured that the management will continually demonstrated respect and gratitude towards you for the sacrifice you make. If that doesn't convince you, then being able to put away thousands of $$$$ a month into savings should surely swing it. Oh, wait....
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Oh look - it's Dan Buster and Trafalgar.
Yawn. FYI. There are vast numbers not applying for a multitude of reasons. Mine is thus - because I'm not a total idiot, I actually save more each month than my net take-home would be at BA. |
Ahh yes McNugget, BA also get the days off if that's the roster you bid for. And you can go part time for even more days off.
So for you, forget the pollution and everything else that you and your family endure. It's all about the money................ |
No, it's not 'all about the money', but I'm not doing this for free.
Every month I work brings my retirement date forward a month. That's quite compelling. My wife and I are very happy here, thanks. I'm aware of the pros and cons of BA. There are many of both. So, like many on HKPA, for a whole host of reasons, I won't be applying. Ps, their Chrystal rostering system, while better than our non-system, is now pretty poor by world standards. A big departure from what Bidline was. |
(not to mention hosties you can actually tell a joke to) |
Originally Posted by Dan Buster
(Post 9187806)
But you are doing it for about 50% less. :hmm:
Thanks for the encouragement - I do enjoy living in said cesspool. There is a huge amount of fun to be had here. I don't live with any spikey haired 'dudes'. I live with my wife. She doesn't have spikey hair, either. And no - you're wrong. While many do hope for an increase in HKPA, it isn't why people are staying. Those that are hoping are also applying elsewhere. Thanks for telling me how I think, though. You really are a sad act. |
McNugget. Just exactly how long does it take to get approval back from management after review before you submit each post? You talk about 'take home'. Haha. Yes, and then you start paying HK prices. And I'm sure you and your wife are living in adequate accommodation as well. There's always one......
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Originally Posted by mngmt mole
(Post 9187813)
McNugget. Just exactly how long does it take to get approval back from management after review before you submit each post? You talk about 'take home'. Haha. Yes, and then you start paying HK prices. And I'm sore you and your wide are living in adequate accommodation as well. There's always one......
Feel free not to believe what I say. I couldn't give a **** either way what you think. HK is expensive, congratulations on working that out. I'm still financially far better off being here. Would I like better accommodation? Naturally. But I also like 16-18 days off a month, and low tax regime thus higher take home, etc... Which I wouldn't stand a chance of getting at BA. I fact, if I could be bothered, I could spend more time in one of my more-than-adequate places in the UK than I would be able to working at BA. All things considered, though, I'll stay out. Thanks for your concern. |
This is exactly CX's plan, get them in the door while things appear good for the early years by the time a family and schooling comes around seniority (the great system we actually think works for us :ugh:) has well and truly taken hold and the company can forever turn the screws knowing you've got nowhere to go!
With hindsight I should have left when I had the chance, sure I'd not retire as early but at least I would have seen my kids grow up in the country I call home. Plus I could always become a SIM instructor with CX :} |
Dan. I suspect that McNug is simply bitter and is therefore trying to justify his decision in spite of all the obvious contradictions in his comments. He either is or will be management. His attitude is perfect.
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More likely he couldn't make it to BA and is trying to convince himself he's better off here.
Nuggets, don't ever complain about HKPA or lack of basing. |
You guys all need to chill.
What any single person decides to pursue is up to him/her....surely. We never know if our decisions were the right ones until the end: and even then we may not be sure. No one else has the right or legitimacy to criticize choices that inherently, are personal. Such individuals that do criticize the decisions of others, provide nothing more than a source of light entertainment. Live and let live. |
Originally Posted by Captn_Kirk
(Post 9187964)
More likely he couldn't make it to BA and is trying to convince himself he's better off here.
Nuggets, don't ever complain about HKPA or lack of basing. And I won't, don't worry. If I wanted a base I would have been awarded it a couple of bids ago. Traf - there is only one person here that comes a cross as relentlessly bitter; day in, day out, and it's not me. Oh, and out of curiosity (as opposed to giving a **** what a bitter old man like you thinks) could you point out all of these 'obvious contradictions in my comments'? |
Originally Posted by Dan Buster
(Post 9188021)
Some more garbage
Get your facts straight. You're looking more foolish than ever. Contradictions, please? Oh, I apologise. I'm FO1 - somewhere between 4.5-5 yeas in. Top stalking, though. |
£2500 pounds a month salary (29'500HKD) with 40% going to a bunch of pikeys.
Where do I sign up! |
Originally Posted by betpump5
(Post 9188055)
£2500 pounds a month salary (29'500HKD) with 40% going to a bunch of pikeys.
Where do I sign up! A DEP can expect 4,100-4,300 a month long haul. Again, still poor but the amongst the best of a bad lot. Europe is ridiculous now. |
so you are saying the Pikeys will get more welfare benefits?
£4'100 = 48500HKD= SO 1st year salary+ HKPA. |
Dan, don't be ridiculous. Why would anyone want to trade a career of chaos and misery for the opportunity to live and work in/near your home, with a recognised first world airline with robust labour law protections and exciting career path (not to mention hosties you can actually tell a joke to)? Sorry man, but you are going to have to do waaaaay better than that to get me to give up the pollution, dirt, non-rostering system, joke rosters, crowds, shoebox apartments, cultured locals and all the other wonderful aspects of living in HK. Don't forget, by staying with CX, you are assured that the management will continually demonstrated respect and gratitude towards you for the sacrifice you make. If that doesn't convince you, then being able to put away thousands of $$$$ a month into savings should surely swing it. Oh, wait.... Sorry if you're miserable in HK, but life as an FO in BA won't be quite the western civilized utopia you're dreaming of. And you will certainly be financially less well off too, have you looked at rental prices in London recently? Food for thought. |
I don't know a single BA pilot that actually lives in London. If money is your bag then live in France and pay about 15%tax. Easily done and hundreds do.
I have no idea what the bloke who mention our crystal bidding system is on about. We still have bid line. Albeit with a few changes over years gone by, but it's still bid line. Crystal is the software we use to bid annually to change seats, bases or types. I'm a 15 year SFO, living in France and take home £8500 per month. Does anyone really base a career decision on how the cabin crew react to a joke? |
McNulty, at least the BA cabin crew would understand the joke on the way to being offended. Don't try and pretend there is any banter with our lot, please! Sounds like you're seriously clutching at straws.
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Ok I'll mention the elephant in the room.
1 in 5 cadets end up in the left seat in CX. 19 out of 20 cadets end up in the left seat at BA. Every cadet at CX will sadly tell you they're the 1 in 5 when obviously this isn't the case, you can't all be. Can't see this changing. |
McNulty, at least the BA cabin crew would understand the joke on the way to being offended. Don't try and pretend there is any banter with our lot, please! Sounds like you're seriously clutching at straws. Why don't you open your narrow minded brain and realise that our crew don't get your ****ty jokes? Different cultures bring different humour. Just because they don't laugh at your 'banter' doesn't mean you have to cry. If you want laughs, go and become a stand-up comedian. :ugh: For the record, BA cabin crew hate their pilots too. :ok: |
Some of them go straight to the CAD instead and are now checking our pilots!
Great system eh? |
Maybe that's the biggest benefit of hiring cadets, everything CX does is normal since you don't know any differently.
The grading system A, B, C, D1, D2 P files The other P files QLs Star chamber 'Checkers to avoid' lists All completely normal if you've never worked at BA, QF, Virgin etc. |
Er, wouldn't that be also 4 in 20 :=
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Nigel / Threethirty
Just a heads up - if nobody laughs at your jokes it means your jokes are ****. |
More puerile bickering on a public forum.
It's getting really embarrassing. |
Very defensive McNugget. Most people who are convinced of their arguments don't bother getting their knickers in a twist quite so emphatically.
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My advice is to see where you will want to end your career and get there as fast as you can |
Excellent post Baggagecart, echoes my sentiments exactly.
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True Baggagecart. However, cost of property in SE UK means that a large family property near extended family is probably out of reach unless you have a large inheritance. As above, many BA pilots have moved out of the UK - which gives you the large property, but not the near family bit, and also messes up education.
4 bed house within commuting distance of Heathrow = small fortune. |
Lots of talk about long term plans and career decisions on here, but given the outlook in Europe especially, do you guys really think traditional flag carriers will be going strong in 10 years time? Short haul is already 100% low cost and you can see quite clearly where the market is heading..the world is changing, be careful what you wish for.
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Heard people are getting A320 command bids after a rare 2-3 years now in BA as opposed to the 6-7 before, the opportunity is there. As for UK and finances..we all know you guys are loaded and can afford it...::E Seriously though, on the subject of housing, as has been correctly mentioned a "4 bed house within commuting distance of Heathrow = small fortune." Getting a suitable house both within short haul roster commuting distance of LHR and inside the catchment area of a good state (i.e. free) school ups the cost even more. Old article, concentrates on metropolitan London but gives you some idea: 245%: That?s the postcode premium for living in catchment area of top London school | London Life | Lifestyle | London Evening Standard Whatever your choice, good luck. |
True, Portsmouth is still affordable. Parts of Bournemouth too.
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BA is more prestigious though, even though CX has its routes from the British Colony, it might as well be part of China Eastern with that sh!t livery. BA uniforms look a lot better with those platinum stripes rather than gaudy gold most airlines use. I think they're the only ones?
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Nope, no, nuh-uh, no way. I'm going to stay in HK and suffer. I enjoy the misery and pain. Why would I give that up for a stable and happy life back home? :ugh:
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Remember a wee while back when CX hired a dozen or so retIred exBA -400 skippers as DEC on the freighters. They had about 200,000 hrs LHS between them. Memory is hazy but didn't we fired most of them in initial training on our -400s?
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Anotherday,
I believe there might have been a few bad "eggs" joining probably trying to treat it as a glorified retirement job but also it was highly political at the time and many competent guys were the victims of a number of STCs with points to prove and axes to grind. All of the ones that stayed however were highly competent and a real pleasure to fly with. The Cav |
How many of the BA cadets that got sidelined and joined CX as S/O's stayed?
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