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Speedbird 31st Mar 2014 09:35

Cathay Pilots honoured
 
Cathay Pacific Pilots Receive IFALPA?s Polaris Award | Business Wire

Cathay Pacific Pilots Receive IFALPA?s Polaris Award | Reuters

LongTimeInCX 31st Mar 2014 09:57

Well I hope our Company came to the party also, in order to provide them with days off, at least firm business class travel, and decent hotel accommodation for both themselves and their respective partners.

The award is a well deserved accolade for the significant feat they achieved against great odds, not least of all saving many lives in the process.
Very well done gentlemen.

SOPS 31st Mar 2014 10:17

Very well done guys. Well deserved.

mr Q 31st Mar 2014 10:44

Did Cathay give them any recognition or commendation for their exceptional airmanship ????

donpizmeov 31st Mar 2014 11:25

Well deserved fellas.

The don.

superfrozo 31st Mar 2014 11:38

Zip, zilch, nada, niente
 
Mr Q, they effectively got nothing from the Company. It's an utter disgrace.

I know one of the guys well. Let's just say that if it wasn't for certain organisation many pay dues to, both pilots would have been unable to attend the awards ceremony... No transport OR time off was granted them by their employer.

Can you imagine if after the 'Miracle on the Hudson' ditching, 'Sully' was told by his Airline "sorry, we don't have the time or money to send you to any awards presentation. There's nothing really in it for us anyway."

People. They make an airline.

(Except when dealing with left field, un-precedented, extreme emergencies in a highly skilled manner that brings a whole new level of "professional" into professional pilot.)

luvmuhud 31st Mar 2014 13:41

Congratulations Malcolm and Dave…fantastic you have both been honored in this way.

I am ashamed and dismayed that Cathay management did absolutely nothing to assist these guys and their respective spouses to attend the IFALPA presentation.

This stoops below the normal nonexistent level of good will.

Night Watch 31st Mar 2014 16:47

Congratulations.... you deserve it!

prairiedriver 31st Mar 2014 17:14

Congratulations gentlemen on a job well done! Your professionalism and decision making are very deserving of the commendations received. Thank you.

I'mbatman 31st Mar 2014 17:33

Make no mistake, the AOA is 100% responsible for sending and providing accommodations for these guys. The company was made aware of the award well in advance and gave NOTHING.

Sqwak7700 31st Mar 2014 17:36

Congratulations, you guys earned it.

But I must say that I'm surprised you guys are surprised by Cathay's way of dealing with this.

Until you start treating your employer the same way they treat you things will not improve around here.

:ugh:

Arfur Dent 31st Mar 2014 19:11

But 'Safety is our number one priority'
Time off and free hotels for two genuine heroes - and, Heaven Forbid - their wives?? How does that sit with contempt and zero respect for the entire Aircrew group?
Well it doesn't sit at all so why are we surprised that nobody in charge had the guts to help these guys.
Just enjoy your profit share and keep showing up on G Days to 'help out'.
A lot of us should be writing letters and getting pretty angry about this.

moosp 31st Mar 2014 19:51

The accident report reads like an impossible task. Only superb airmanship saved the aircraft and the lives of the crew and passengers.

It is appalling but very predictable that CX senior management decided to ignore this award. The board appear to do everything they can to denigrate the skills and competence of the pilot (and engineering) workforce in an ever increasing attempt to destroy pilot and professional self esteem. I assume it is based on the notion that if you can convince the pilots and line staff that they are worthless, they can be paid and treated as such.

As was mentioned above with respect to Capt. Sulley, the management of American squeezed the maximum public relations advantage out of that incident, leaving the American public to assume that the entire pilot workforce of American Airlines was like him. A brilliant, if slightly dubious, PR recovery.

Knowing most of the fleet management of CX I am sure that most of them tried to push it upstairs to get at least some support for this. This would have been stopped at either DFO or Board level. Yes, I know it is IFALPA and they are, God forbid, a UNION organisation but they do more research, development and implementation of flight safety and the improvement of aviation structures than any other organisation outside of NASA and the NTSB. CX then goes on to take the free benefit from this research.

Many people are alive today because these pilots had superior skills, knowledge and training, and not just that gained from their CX experience. As we see with MH370, the cost of a hull loss in human, logistics and public relations costs is massive, and may break an airline.

That senior management of CX do not see the advantage of a skilled line workforce is one of the fundamental aspects as to why CX is now losing market share to airlines who do.

bigbeerbelly 31st Mar 2014 20:06

I watched an interview where Captain Chesley B. “Sully” Sullenberger discussed the PR campaign following the crash of US Airways Flight 1549. The FO and him came up with the strategy. The aim of which was to educate the world how important it is to have the best of the best in the cockpit and that means paying top wages. I am suspect US Airway management is no better than Cathay management. Probably far from it.

My sincere respect then and now to the amazing skill and CRM that the crew of CPA780 displayed.

LGB 31st Mar 2014 22:07


Arfur Dent:

But 'Safety is our number one priority'
Not any more, Arfur. Check posters inside elevators in CX City, they took out 'number one' so now it's just

"Safety is our priority"

No announcements, just sliding priorities down hoping no-one would notice.

Considering the nature of the emergency I wind the captains last name most appropriate.

Well done, guys!

Captain Dart 31st Mar 2014 22:59

Another 'missed opportunity' for Cathay Pacific; they are Hong Kong's very own 'Sully' and Skiles.

Well deserved, gentlemen.

P.S. Why don't you write a book?

NoseGear 31st Mar 2014 23:26

Utter shite
 
Remember the "Worlds Best Cabin Crew" award and the crawling, over the top dog and pony show that went along with that?:yuk::yuk: And what do they do, I mean, really.....? Now here we have two genuine heroes, in the same vein as Sully and his FO, and CX does nothing....it beggars belief but does show us what they truly think of us and where the 'power' lies here. I'm personally appalled but I really can't say I'm surprised.:mad::ugh:

Oasis 1st Apr 2014 06:19

The pilots are an afterthought.
There would be a smoking hole in Hong Kong somewhere if it wasn't for the skill and airmanship of these two fine professionals.

Public relations missed a huge opportunity showcasing this back then and have now made it even worse by what I am reading above.

People make an airline, indeed.

CYRILJGROOVE 1st Apr 2014 07:42

NKAND
 
You are an IDIOT

Frogman1484 1st Apr 2014 08:31

NKAND you cannot say that! :mad:


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