Why can't CX compete with a different aircraft type? Seat costs will not be all that different. The 77W carried far more freight and unless BA has large suites in a first class++ config, it doesn't matter too much to the individual passenger what plane they are in...its not like they are going to be using the on-board jacuzzi, bowling alley or running track very much. With 4 flights a day to choose from vs BA's two, I think CX will do just fine. Granted however that there will be some non-frequent travellers who fly the 380 for the experience once or twice.

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...but the A380s ASKs are not that much different to the 77W's. Possibly slightly better without factoring cargo into the equation. If they sell 100 seats cheaply, they are still going to have to make up the difference by selling the other seats at a profit. They may gain market share in terms of numbers of they might not steal any 'quality' passengers.

geh065,

You seem to be a man of reason. Can you let us know the cargo carrying differences between the 777 and the 380?

The Don

Sorry I dont have the exact figures but it has been something discussed before on these forums and others and the conclusion was basically that the 77W carries a lot more freight. Something to do with the huge fuel tanks in the fuselage of the A380 and maybe the crew rest being down there too.

I see. So you don't know.

For info the B777 does have a center Fuel tank which, as you note, would reduce carrying capability. The 380 carries its fuel in the wing and THS only.

Just checking. :E

The Don

77W can carry 44 LD3 containers. The A380 carries 38. That's a 16% difference. Factor in that the A380 has to carry 200 more pax worth of bags, or 40% more. So I think it is safe to say that the 77W has quite a bit more revenue cargo potential.

From Boeing website for B773Er

7,120 cu ft (201.6 cu m)
includes up to eight pallets, 20 LD-3
container

From Airbus website for A380

Freight LD3 capacity underfloor 38 LD3 Max pallet number underfloor 13 Bulk hold volume 505 ft³ Total volume 6 554 ft³ (containers+bulk)
Just sayin.

The Don

Don,

Come on man! 8 pallets and 20 LD3s are the same as 44 LD3s. Did you ever notice how cargo pallets are quite a bit larger than LD3 containers?

Boeing represents the cargo area this way to show customers that after loading all the passenger bags, there is still a lot of room, more than 50%, for palletized cargo.

Now imagine how many LD3s the A380 has to load and how much space is left over once that is done. Simply put, assuming full pax, the 77W has the potential to carry a lot more cargo.

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