offensive insignia, such as the swastika or the poppy, |
May I please save us all the time D emin you are an idiot ...
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Tired of coming second D-ENIM?
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Steady on Mr HKD, if I recall, your mob was late on parade for the first and second event. We're debating British military stuff 'ere, not some Johnny come lately from a colony that was let go. (Well maybe you took it back:-) )
Ovens !! Love it, best laugh I've had in ages. My poppy was, is, and will continue to he worn with pride out of respect and remembrance. |
Funny how America is criticized today for over-projecting its power globally and hastily jumping into conflicts. Seems that in the first half of the 20th century, Americans were too slow. I guess you can't please everyone all the time...
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get to wear mine going through Germany on Saturday - cannot wait, might even double pin it to get a ping off the machine
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Chill
Don't be too hard on D-ENIM, he has a right to express his opinion however misplaced it may be :ooh: Afterall, ignorance is not a crime. :=
Perhaps we should all instead look forward to the day his parents get married :} |
Confused logic, brazen ignorance, ill-conceived assumption, empty threats, and xenophobic intolerance are all well illustrated in your posts above. Thank goodness you sad souls are not a true reflection of the intellectual demographic of our airline, nor of our profession!
Do any of you (stone chuckers) find it (even in the least bit) funny how you all "recall" historic events, albeit that none of you could conceivably have experienced any of your recollections? I do. And I put it to you that, sadly, it appears that all that remains of the glory of the WWII veterans and victims today, is the ignorance, intolerance, and incapacity to make amends, of their offspring. Honor without offensive symbolism. No poppy for me, thank you. |
Do any of you (stone chuckers) find it (even in the least bit) funny how you all "recall" historic events, albeit that none of you could conceivably have experienced any of your recollections? |
[quote] it is in my opinion, best to avoid brandishing offensive insignia, such as the swastika or the poppy, at work./QUOTE]
Comparing the poppy to the swastika is without doubt the most offensive thing I have seen written on this website! D-ENIM I have no words to describe how loathsome an individual I consider you to be. With any luck the moderators or better still an act of god will prevent you from writing your rubbish in the future. Do any of you (stone chuckers) find it (even in the least bit) funny how you all "recall" historic events, albeit that none of you could conceivably have experienced any of your recollections? I do You offensive ignorant moron. |
D-ENIM,
Would it help to mention that I have, to choose a couple, on occasion, stopped by the maritime memorial in Mainz and the Falklands memorial in BA to read the names thereon? Anyhoo, we'll be attending the memorial service in Marlow this year; last year it was Manly and, if I happened to be in Germany, I'd probably go to theirs. p.s. Better not mention the ceremony we attended on 28th June this year ;) |
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It was the red poppies which grew over the graves of the fallen soldiers of WWI that inspired the poem, "In Flander's Fields"... in time, the Remembrance Day poppy has become the world's most recognized memorial symbol for soldiers who died in conflict.
Unlike the flags or insignia of individual nations or religions which are exclusive, the poppies simply grew over the resting places of the dead. It didn't matter what side a soldier fought for, or whether he perished with a bang, or a whimper. If anyone can think of a more appropriate symbol to remember all fallen soldiers, I'd like to hear what it might be. If anyone is offended by the poppy, or is offended by those who choose wear one, now may be a good time to reflect on why. |
Everything that needs to be said about D-ENIM..... has been said; a misinformed, confused and incorrect individual whose use of the word Xenophobic about others should perhaps be practiced looking in a mirror.
Taras B, thanks for those words and I look forward to more. In the meanwhile:- It's humour! In my experience all members of all armed forces thrive on it. If anyone feels offended feel free to dig out some Brit-Blasting humour, or if you like, I will, happily. |
Further to TARAS B's post, it was in fact an American lady, a Miss Moina Michaels who worked at the YMCA HQ in New York who is generally credited with the origin of the use of the poppy as a symbol of remembrance. Apparently after reading "In Flanders Fields" she decided that from then on she would wear a poppy each year in remembrance of the dead.
So much for it being a symbol of British imperialism. |
Says it all
Even as a Brit the words on the Gallipoli Memorial at ANZAC Cove put everything into perspective:
"Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives… You are now living in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours… You, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace, after having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well." As credited to Kemal Ataturk after he became the first President of Turkey. |
PPRuNe at its best
Thank you to the likes of Taras B and Starbear for putting the outrageous comments of both camps into some sort of perspective.
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CX at CENOTAPH
Good to see Messrs Rhodes,Slosar,Hall,Pratt and others from the "best in the business team" looking suitably solemn and paying their respects at the Cenotaph at the Eleventh Hour of the Eleventh Day
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