Hong Kong Airlines order A380s
Hong Kong Airlines Ltd. will order Airbus SAS A380s as it challenges larger neighbor Cathay Pacific Airways Ltd. (293) and adds flights in China, the world’s fastest- growing air-travel market. Your move Cathay, HKG passengers will have a choice to fly on a clapped out 744 or brand new A380s. |
or brand new 330/777/350's!
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To a well financed Airline with even a slight respect for the travelling public, CX must seem like a desirable opponent. If this happens I wonder how many more 'Best Business Class in Asia/The World/The Universe' we will win??
How did we win any in the first place? |
I agree with Sweep the leg, who gives a toss if HKA have A380s or space shuttles- the thing is yet to prove it's worth and is a mega backpacker carrier at best. Give me small planes and upgrades anyday!:ok:
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You would not be saying that if they suddenly announced an order for CRJs.
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Go rockstar it up in an EK F Class Private Suite, then try and convince yourself it isn't a gamechanging aircraft ... :ok:
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Exactly.
I've done EK F suite and their J seat.. hung out @ the bar in with sofa on the upper deck.. It's the only way to travel. and they charge less for it than CX tries to for their regional A330/B777 J seat.. No question. |
Your move Cathay, HKG passengers will have a choice to fly on a clapped out 744 or brand new A380s. |
BA Too
Next year BA will have their new 380s on the HKG route, that route to LHR is enough alone for CX to need the 380 and quick.
In 2013 HKA will be bigger than KA. Who cares where they fly them STP it is surely time to take them seriously. I also hear that CX are losing local pilots to them too, they are competition in many ways! |
Who cares where they fly them STP it is surely time to take them seriously. As far as local pilots leaving CX in favour of HKA is concerned, that would only become an issue if significant numbers were involved. What that number might be, who knows? That said, your point about HKA being competition in more ways than one is valid. |
As far as local pilots leaving CX in favour of HKA is concerned, that would only become an issue if significant numbers were involved. What that number might be, who knows? That said, your point about HKA being competition in more ways than one is valid. Too bad its open skies and more opportunities for employment in all fields and choices for passengers too! :ok: No one need to play God either. :D Good luck and happy landings! |
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NYC...can a 380 fly direct to NYC with decent payload and fuel? I don't think so.
LON...how are they going to get landing slots??? |
LON may not mean LHR.:)
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Originally Posted by badairsucker
NYC...can a 380 fly direct to NYC with decent payload and fuel? I don't think so.
In London, I think they would be going to LGW like Oasis did. |
In London, I think they would be going to LGW like Oasis did. LON may not mean LHR. If it's LGW then I can't see it working as there is a poor connection from LGW to the rest of the UK etc and too much competition from CX, BA, QF, Virgin and ANZ from LHR to HKG. Ever thought why there are NO services from LGW to HKG. Only time will tell. |
[quote]QF operate their A380s LAX-MEL daily, that route with the winds has a longer air nautical miles than JKF-HKG[/b]
QF's international model isn't exactly one which Cathay are trying to follow, for obvious reasons.. A380 JFK-HGK would be a huge u-turn in profit. |
Given the dump that is LHR, I would gladly fly to LGW instead!
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Originally Posted by Steve the Pirate
There's no point getting shiny new aircraft if they've got limited routes to justify their purchase.
Do you think for a minute that HX may just have a business plan that you do not know about ?
Originally Posted by ETOPS240
A380 JFK-HGK would be a huge u-turn in profit.
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Oh Yes they can
HX is owned by HNA group. They have significant financial backing, and a very lucrative domestic market in the 2nd largest economy in the world. As the only non-state aligned carrier and constrained by the central planning of the mainland government, expansion internationally is somewhat muted. This explains why HX was purchased in the firstplace; as it provides a relatively limitless expansion plan unfettered by central planning and with the HKG limit on AOCs allowed at any one time and the further limit of only 2 HKG carriers on any one route allows access to any market they choose ex HKG
The political will is on the side of HX and why not, after all they Have "Hong Kong" written on the side of their aircraft and display no hangover of the Colonial era. CX is In for a battle. But spare a thought for KA because this outfit is now dead in the water and nobody seems to want to acknowledge it. There senior management have admitted to having no idea about the company's future (as CX refuses to make a commitment to them. |
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