Jumpseat Question
 

On what day, and exact time does the jumpseat system open up to requests?
Just trying to beat to the punch all those people who put in and hold J1 for multiple flights on multiple days.
Another quick question for those of you on here who release these jumpseats.
What priority do you use, first come first served, or something else??

First applicant, first seat into J2, 3, 4; unless fellow aircrew then J1. Will hold J1 open waiting for any pilots who might want it.

jumpseat priority
 

Priority to non aoa members.

Jump seat priority policy:

1. HKAOA members

2. DPA members

3. Cabin Crew

4. Engineering staff

5. Ground staff

Please be guided accordingly.

Divide and conquer, the company do not have a monopoly on that one!!

DDDOF, I think JS requests open when roster goes live, which is usually 2 days after roster released ( I think 15th for CX, 16th for KA )

I think Bograts system is fair, maybe even Darts, but what really pi55es me off is when your priority gets changed, especially close to date of travel. Do the :mad:s that do this realise people may actually be depending on the JS to get home, or at the very least, out of HK ?
Then there are the ones that are serial rejecters, don't think it goes un-noticed :=

jumpseats
 

Yes serial rejecters are well noted-and for Dart and Dan this could be construed as intimidation of work colleagues- refer Vol. 1 for that one. Secondly the company could can stop the use of jumps if they are being used as an intimidation tool of work colleagues.

:ok:

I agree very strongly with RootTuner:

Don't openly advertise the fact that non-AOA members get lower (lowest?) priority.

Nike.

HKF, As an FO you will never see a jumpseat request requiring your approval, not sure how the "don't think that doesn't go unnoticed" stirs your porridge.

First week after roster comes out...

J1 - in order
a) family of operating crew
b) commuting pilots
c) pilots on leave

J2 and down -
Any other crew

I do hold off for about five days after roster release so people on trips or leave have time to submit. By the 22nd or so, I give seats away on first come, first serve, top available.

J1 for KA or CX pilots. First in, first serve. I have been assisted ( saved ) on so many occasions by CX Captains, that I try and reciprocate as much as I can.

But what's with your F/A's? You give them a J1 and find they have the same on a dozen other flights!

Should it become obvious that an individual has selfishly block booked multiple Jumpseats then the DENIED selection is the only credible response. Commuting pilots are also regular offenders I might add.

Sorry to burst your bubble Old rope but it's a 2 crew operation these days, not like back in WW2 eh ?
Most of the guys I fly with would listen if the effo had an objection to a jump seat rider and most ask as a matter of course anyway.
And FWIW, probably a good chance I have approved/disapproved more JS's than you've had hot breakfasts, we did'nt all sit in the JS/RHS for 10 years in CX.

Danbuster, tend to agree with you there.

I certainly do not rescind a jumpseat previously granted through the crew direct system, even to the extent that if my wife wanted to go somewhere with me:confused:, she would understand the principle involved in honouring that seat to the guy who may have made plans and be depending on being able to travel having been granted it.

Where I do check with the other crew, is the late notice request - often at dispatch or by the traffic staff on the aircraft, where the applicant may be an unknown/ random, in which case I ask for the views of the other crew. Seldom have I had negative feedback, but it's the courteous thing to do.

Not implying anything Dan, and as far as I'm concerned people who don't even give their own workmates a helping hand can rot in hell, let alone be late for a shift.
Longtime, nice to hear you don't rescind jumpseats, but it does happen, when you go from 1 to 3 or 4 it might as well be rescinded completely, and if you read my original post you will see I said that what really pi55es me off is changes after they have been granted.

I regularly use the jumpseat system for both commuting and leave, but I have two questions...

1. How is the Captain able to see whether I'm an AOA member? (I am BTW)

2. How many jumpseats are actually available on the day? I usually travel on the B744, and have been kindly given the upper deck biz class seat when I needed it. But the Airbus/777? How does that work?

Confused...

Cheers :8

On the 340 the flt crew rest can become a seat for take off and landing, 330 never has 4 crew.

The days of F/O's being asked if they mind having a j/s pax , at least in CX, would have stopped when the computer application system began. Unless of course it's a last minute one on the day, and then the Captain has ALWAYS asked if i had any objections.........

If you are, in fact, an AOA member you will know that there is a list of every pilot in the company on the AOA website which says if they are full members or are non-members.

That is how.

OK, cheers. Seems a bit of a hassle the Captain checking the list on the AOA website against jumpseat requests for every flight. :}