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CD,

We'll simply have to agree to disagree on this one, I'm sure, but the "spirit of the law" concerning giving away the JS was probably not meant to include revenge. Personally, I wish it were much more controlled (a la some set of rules to follow) rather than being at the whim of each individual. Let the pilots even vote on what those rules are but at least we would know what the system was. As numerous people have pointed out on this thread, you have absolutely no idea when you go in and ask for a seat if you'll get it, what the criteria will be to determine that, etc.

To your question about the US, to the best of my knowledge the major US carriers simply do not have non-union pilots. I could be wrong on that but do not know of a non-union pilot at AA, DL, CO or UA. My brother is a pilot at DL and I know they are 100% union members. It is a very different culture than here in the fragrant harbour. Of course, every friend I have in US aviation works for a currently or at one time very recently bankrupt company. Might be why I don't complain about CX management quite as much as some. My paycheck has shown up every single month for 18 years now.

cool, at last a reason to join the AOA....i could get a jump-seat!

now where do i apply?

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To your question about the US, to the best of my knowledge the major US carriers simply do not have non-union pilots. I could be wrong on that but do not know of a non-union pilot at AA, DL, CO or UA. My brother is a pilot at DL and I know they are 100% union members. It is a very different culture than here in the fragrant harbour. Of course, every friend I have in US aviation works for a currently or at one time very recently bankrupt company. Might be why I don't complain about CX management quite as much as some. My paycheck has shown up every single month for 18 years now.

The reason why it is 100% union membership is because in the U.S., the pilot unions are 'closed shop'. There's isn't the choice like you have at CX.

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The reason why it is 100% union membership is because in the U.S., the pilot unions are 'closed shop'. There's isn't the choice like you have at CX

Most of the U.S. pilot unions are "Agency Shops". I do not know of any U.S. pilot union that is a "Closed Shop", in fact depending on where the airline is located "Closed Shop" would be illegal.

BS

Indeed I stand corrected - "Agency Shop".
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744Cap. I Tend to agree with you about the spirit of the law thing.

But at the same time, I like to feel comfortable with whoever sits on my own flight deck. Ok, granted, I may not get much of a choice where rostered crew are concerned. However when it comes to the bit of real estate that I do have some control over(j/s), it's nice to give it away to someone in need and someone you can get along with.