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canuckster 8th May 2009 13:06

No & No
 
NO & NO.
NO brainer.

IFB 8th May 2009 13:33

You really are an idiot. I have already told you I am on 99, so it would seem you have the problem with reading. As for changing to 08, well again like I have already said I am undecided, but I will not disadvantage the new joiners if I do decide to stay on 99.

Once again you have failed to answer my direct question about new joiners on COS 08:

What do you consider their choices were?

I can only presume that the reason you do not answer is because you consider that they should have stayed on the dole rather than join cx and thus prove that you do expect a stranger to fight your battles by sacrificing their future at this company for your benefit. And you have the front to suggest others grow a backbone! Maybe you should grow some balls of your own first!

You could always quit cx in protest against the company's tactics because if as you say the recovery is just around the corner then you leaving would cause them problems. That way when they knock on your door begging you to return you tell can them to shove COS 08 and that you will only re-join if they give you and everybody else COS 99. No doubt the company will cave to your superior point of view, but if they don't you can be secure in the knowledge that you are in no worse a position than those who you expect to stay on the dole on your behalf.

No point in arguing with an idiot, especially one who does not give a damn about anybody else!:yuk:

Sqwak7700 8th May 2009 13:57

Thanks Canuckster, any others on COS99?

cluin44 8th May 2009 14:22

Staying on cos99. No to SLS paycut. AOA no way too gay.

crewsunite 8th May 2009 14:54

Sorry posted in wrong place
 
No SLS Stay 99 - Though i'm for AoA but they have sold a fast one this time!


May Day you do make sure good points

I have been following some of the things you say.

Though its very emotive at the moment, you do make sure good points.

For example: A scalers (Our fearless leaders & roll models)
Reaching 55 have three choices as I see it

1) Retire & enjoy a good life with some youth remaining.

2) Remain working on A scale till RA65 if the CX does not offer it. Put up a fight (Legally 1st then with other forms of lobbying & pressure)
If all of you including trainers etc do the same then CX would have little choice as they need you as NR said. You are also more in a position to put up a fight than the rest of us. You should have paid off houses & kids grown up etc.
(CMD extensions this way we are proctected by BPP & we'll all benefit from RA65 if we really need to work longer)

3) Sign Cos08 and effectively "take a new job" almost like a DEC taking away CMD from JNR crew. You'll be selling yourselves to a cheaper deal at our expense! Thus by choosing the 3rd option gives us little hope for the future.
You also take away alot of hope and asperations and fuelling some bitterness.

Life sucks when our kids are at school overseas and we cannot get basis.
While you on your base enjoying clean air & fishing in between your holiday job which pays for your mansions renovations & that new BMW bike. If you are really professional demand pay for experience! Demand the same contract.
You'll find most have no problem with that. In fact you'll make us really proud.

And that's maybe why May day & the Likes are so MAD!
If we're a team choose option 2) Fight for a solid victory. As our leaders & roll models help set the bar at a high level you'll have more leverage than us! If you really care.

Anyway's like many others my brain is stressed out big time & has been effected by all this emotion.

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Last say: Why the rush? Try and delay COS08 until more clarification.
A NO vote may mean a better deal for all incl Cos99 in more favourable times.

OR why not have another option on a VOTE with guys saying:
a) I agree with Cos08
b) I don't agree with Cos08
c) I suggest xyz in no more than 30 words.

They be saying the No's there & then more likely to put a YES tick where you desire!


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