Nominations
 

WRT ST's email announcing nominations:

WHEN WILL THE MESSAGE GET THROUGH TO DAVE THAT WE DONT WANT HIM TO STAND. HE HAS DONE A FINE JOB WITH S.T & THE OTHER DAVE GIVING US THE SHAFT!

AFL

Alpha,
I guess Dave will get the message when you get the backbone to look him in the eye and tell him ............... which is about as much chance as a snow flake in summer.

I see NC has stuck his hand up for GC, good stuff!
By the way is candidate No 10 the very same new 4 bar DEC we heard about in the last DFO up date. Now wouldnt that be interesting!!!!!

First Officer Peter Hay
 

Apparently First Officer Peter Hay has nominated for General Committee of the HKAOA. He is to be recommended for the post. Throughout his aviation career he has shown himself to hold close to his heart all of the values that the HKAOA now stands for.

You mean CAPTAIN Peter Hay?

Didn't take too long did it:=

Why don't these people retire and GET A LIFE.

If they want to keep working TRY KOREAN or SQ Cargo instead of screwing those of us that are still trying to get to retirement age with some sort of cash in our pockets.

Yes that means you RM, go to Virgin Aust for gods sake mate.

You can vote for who you like but they won't show any balls because they know you'll dump them if the going gets tough......just as MG and ST did the 49ers. Wasting your time (and money) chaps. Findlay sure appreciates it though.

NC on the GC...
 

NC has stood for the GC in the past but my questions to him are:

Have you ever finished a term that you stood up for?

Will you spit the dummy again and quit the GC if you don't like what is being tabled by the GC?

Will you quit the Union again if you don't like the direction of the GC?

Thanks

Joe

One can only wonder what the motives are for a recently returned retiree running for G.C, cant imagine it is to look after the careers of F.Os and S.Os!!!!!

Would somebody please point out the initials of the recent retiree. I am trying to get as much info on each candidate as possible so that I can make an informed decision.

Thank you.

SAD = Simplex = Cluin?? = JoeShmoe = CPU members????
Yes I left the GC before my term was up in 2001 - the official reason was my impending command. The real reason was that the AOA executive at that time wanted to continue on a path the membership no longer wanted to walk.
I would not give relevance or legitimacy to undemocratic leadership by continuing my membership of the GC.

Last year I believe there was a disconnect between some of the AOA executive and the GC. I could have remained on the GC but I saw no point wasting any more of my time or theirs!

To answer your other questions asked under your many handles, yes I do respect ST and still believe he is acting in what he believes is the members' best interests. It just so happens that he and I disagree on what path that should take! Yes I am unhappy with how the 49ers issue was dealt with but I really don't know what can be done about it now - any realistic ideas?

The past defines where you start from, not where you are going to. The future of our careers is in our hands - dwelling on past mistakes or mishandling serves no purpose. I suggest that all members and non members set sight on what can be achieved, not what 'shoulda' or 'coulda' been done in the past!

Hear Hear NC

Anyone considering voting for PH should review his past (before 1999) actions with respect to the union ................... check the HKAOA records :eek:

To NC...
 

Dear NC,

The past defines who you are and shows how you react to situations...which in your case as a GC member doesn't bode well for the unity and integrity of the said GC.

As for me being anyone else - nope! Not in the CPU either...just a Yellow AOA Tie Pin wearer....more than you can say.

I hope you can prove me wrong and actually finish a term that you get elected for.

Cheers

Joe

NR: thanks for that, you beat me to the punch. Having just found out who NC is I was going to ask if I could pin-point where he was on the list as I feel he has a lot of support, now I don't have to.

JS: As to NC resigning from the GC when it goes in a direction he thinks is far removed from where the members want it to go, well, that's just what I'd want of a Gov. Minister and a GC member. I don't always agree with what he has to say, but from what I can see you know where he stands, and if I don't like it I can cast my vote elsewhere.

Don't know if this is the case, but I think it'd be a good idea if members could see how the GC voted, it'd give you an idea of where they stand on the issues at the time and what bias they hold and how it may effect their voting leaving you to vote at elections accordingly.

what can be done about it now?
 

:SAD = Simplex = Cluin?? = JoeShmoe = CPU members????

Joe you're behind on your subs. CPU

:Yes I am unhappy with how the 49ers issue was dealt with but I really don't :know what can be done about it now - any realistic ideas?

Ross you're behind on your subs. CPU

Can we please get back on topic.
I beleive the candidate for president along with GC nominations Numbers 1,2,3,5,9,12,16 stand for constructive change in direction to one of holding the company to account for transgression's to our COS, falling renumeration, rostering practices etc.
I am told # 11 did little in the past tenure so will not be getting my vote. I know none of the FO's and SO's but applaud them for "attempting" to have a say in the direction their career will take and as a result they shall also get my vote.
I am interested to hear others opinions of the candidates direction and ask that we keep it on topic rather than letting it drift into individual character assassination.

Totally agrre with you Firewall. PW will be a good change as Prez and as you said, great to see so many S.Os and F.Os sticking their hand up!!

Ahh......... pardon my ignorance but isn't that basically what this is about? They put forward their names so WE can pick who we want based on their CHARACTER

Discussing their relative merit based on their past character performance is very valid. If they can't stand the heat then they should get out of the kitchen.

Well said ACMS :)

I encourage members to log on to the AOA web site and download the letters of introduction from the Nominees.

I have printed out the list of Nominees and so far have crossed out 2 names that I defiantly wont be voting for (8 and 10).

The ones I will defiantly vote for from knowing them personally or their introduction letters (so far.... not all introduction letters have been submitted yet) are 1,2,3,6,7,9,13,15,17,18,19,20,21.

Please have a good think about your vote and lets get a GC in that will actually do something to improve our CoS.