Hey TAD,

It seems to have gone very quiet in here lately.
U think the memos have been flying around the 5th floor telling everyone to watch their P's and Q's ??? :) :) if they want to stay employed !!

Hey 2 dogs,
Yes I think you're right.I suppose most of the Gweilos will milk the cash cow for as long as possible before retiring.The locals are too scared.
Well out of it.:D

Especially for 2 Dogs
 

Rice Rhine:

Which Division of the HKCAD should be subject to criticism? Name it, so that each of us will give it a kick.

2 Dogs was being pointed as suspect, why not he kick off first since he is no longer bound by the Official Secret Ordinance.

beep beep, kickoff!

Lovely Management
 

What is the relevance of the Official Secrets Ordinance to deserved criticism of ATMD Management? No secrets there!

TOIL. What rate did they pay out at? 1 for 1 or something more in line with the rest of the world? Knowing the bureaucratic pen pushers in town, they would have got out of it cheaply.

Lovelly ... read the thread !!
 

This thread is about HKCAD ATMD ... perhaps you should start the game with a swift drop-kick to the 4th floor.

(Sound of loud whistle in background)

Criticism of HKCAD
 

Apparently criticism/discussion of HKCAD and it's ATC problems is not permitted on PPRuNe ???????????????????????

Let's see how this link goes Rice Whine:

http://www.cathaypilotsunion.org/

Toil,
They paid out NOTHING.The records are 3months behind,so it was just forgotten about.
That's after they robbed 100 hours off me,after losing the details.They say they don't keep the records that long.LIE they do,every nano second is listed for ever.They won't pay out when you leave.
HK ATMD are a bunch of thieving liers.:} Swift kick in the nadgers.:ouch:

... perhaps you should start the game with a swift drop-kick to the 4th floor.

As well as 3rd floor, please!

Seems they've gone to ground on the TOIL figures. Latest updated figures for ATCOs on the board in the Centre are still December 07 - 5 months behind!

TAD
I believe "TOIL" was refering to Kai Tak days - before you got here if I remember rightly. Things haven't got any better, as you can see above.

Lap,
No I did a month in Kai Tak,listening to PP's war stories.;) Then out to Moonbase Alpha.The Toil figures went bananas when they moved from Kai Tak to CLK.It went from a paper system to computer(yeah right) and a lot of people at CLK vanished from the system for a month.They lost the records for that time.They owe people still there a lot of time.Others were put on a punishment roster to claim back the time.5 days on,1 off to claim back for their mistakes.Dangerous and I bet they will still try it.
Only 5 months behind to produce that load of C:mad:p.

throw.... Give us all a break,pal. We are sick of hearing for the past 4 years of how you were robbed of toil. Get a life,get over it . Truth is that you are still not over the fact that they fired you.

Meinhk,
Sure I'll get a life.Happened when I left HK.You should get your facts straight,that I left by my own free will.:ok: You can ask to see my staff record if you want PAL.I don't/didn't have to grovel to CAD,because I can't work anywhere else.
It wasn't me the started the TOIL thing,but if you're happy with that system,good for you.If you worked in the real world,where they pay for overtime,you will may note that 12 days overtime= around £6000 or about HKD 90000.You lot get Scottish Football Association.:D
CAD want you to face front and shut up.Looks like it's working.Too scared that the gratuity won't be paid?.:hmm: If you want me to stop contributing,then I suggest you log off pprune.:=

I love Brothers Four
 

........Give us all a break,pal. We are sick of hearing for the past 4 years of how you were robbed of toil. Get a life,get over it . Truth is that you are still not over the fact that they........

Shuu.....Quiet! He is from the Management aka bro4 aka womanizer aka a piece of sh:mad:it.

TAD
 

Seems you have stirred up a few people on the TOIL issue. Fact is EVERYBODY has been screwed for TOIL. The difference is we are not getting screwed anymore and we aren't working in Hong Kong anymore (whether by force or free will) and THEY ARE. No wonder they are pi55ed :) :}

And we get pay rises as well.:ok::D

Money! Money!
 

Yep ..... and rumours/promises of another BIG one here before the end of the year. :) :) :)