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oldsmithy 21st Feb 2008 03:51

Go to youtube in the search menu type in cx seattle. You will get the star studed movie.

Hockeystick 21st Feb 2008 04:27

Blocked
 
It is now blocked on Youtube, anyone have this video?

oldsmithy 21st Feb 2008 04:41

That is not very sporting then from the old chaps on the upper levels. I guess that means, this was not one of their finer moments in avaition/airline business///////////////////////////////////////////:\:\:\:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Harbour Dweller 21st Feb 2008 04:44

Seems not everyone was impressed.

The Flypast video has been removed from Youtube.

jumpseat 21st Feb 2008 05:53

:mad:




If it's not on You Tube, it never happened.

N1 Vibes 21st Feb 2008 07:36

Pictures around Tyler Towers also being 'politely removed'......:oh:

azamat69 21st Feb 2008 08:12

The guy in the right hand seat foor the flyby was a very senior base training captain on the 777 who is very well respected. Apparently on the CVR he was heard repeating.."up,up,up"....

Latest rumour is that both are getting dismissed.....

Liam Gallagher 21st Feb 2008 08:29

I'm not a 777 pilot... but...... they accessed the CVR....????

Did they send it to the NTSB or Farnborough for analysis (surprised the tape was long enough) or does the 777 download everything said on the FD as an MP3 via acars????

N1 Vibes 21st Feb 2008 08:40

The local journalists can get anything read here in HKG!:}

backspace 21st Feb 2008 11:20

Rumour I hear is that the CEO was the one that complained.

ALPHA FLOOR 21st Feb 2008 12:22

I dont want to speculate as to what or how but something is happening. Both the CP and his R/H seat have had roster changes. CP is on sick leave and the R/H seat "O"'s.........

Where there is smoke there is always a fire!

What will NR say in his weekly propaganda message if anything?

FlexibleResponse 21st Feb 2008 12:35

luvmuhud

A Swire business man could be talked into believing anything was safe, as he has no relevant experience, training or judgment to refer to.
Hmmm...How ironic!

A Swire businessman as described is exactly who CX employs as their Director of Flight Operations!

Busbert 21st Feb 2008 14:16

It was a very fine moment. A smidgen off the deck with gear up.

Guess the CP is an Old Bold Pilot.

cxflyer 21st Feb 2008 18:11

What now
 
The DFO now has a very important decision to make as to how to handle those involved. To put aside the hyperbol (it was great or hang em high) for a minute it is worth reviewing how these types of things have been handled in the past.
It was only a year or so ago that a new frieghter capt was doing an approach into JFK. One that by all acounts was well briefed and prepared for, when a last min change to a runway with a poorly indicated offset loc very nearly caused an accident. Understandbly the company had to review this incident and in the end removed this person from command, while noting that there was in fact a problem with the way the chart was presented, and that ATC played a role with the numerous runway changes. We all know it was an honest mistake, serious but honest, and that given the correct circumstances any one of us could have been there. None the less, this capt suffered the consequesnces of his actions as in the flight deck the buck stops with him.

Compare that incident with the flyby which was a very low pass, with pax onboard putting the airframe, its occupants and the companies reputation at stake for no usefull purpose. Add to that that those allegedly invovled are expected to uphold the companies operating procedures and standards and sadly there can be only one result that is consistant with companies goal of "saftey first". As unpleasant as it may be, those involved have to answer for their actions.

Glass Half Empty 21st Feb 2008 18:43

do unto them as we would be so judged - sack them all.

Westcoastcapt 21st Feb 2008 20:06

A turning point?
 
Gents,

I agree wholeheartedly with CXflyers comment. That poor chap lost his command by missing something, the offset localizer, that could have happened to anyone.

Yet, this incident is a blatent serious error in judgement that could have had serious consequences. And it was obviously planned. Let's be honest, if any line pilot had done something remotely similar they would be fired with great fanfare and without hesitation. They fired some 49'ers for a lot less.

How CX management handles this kerfuffle will haunt them well into the future. No doubt, some disenfranchised pilot will refer to the outcome of this incident, if they find themselves dismissed for something lesser. The fact that management tried to cover the incident is going to cause them considerable grief anyways.

Love it!!

SOUTHPAC 21st Feb 2008 21:22

I just hope this guy gets treated with the same disrespect, indignation and arrogance as he showed whilst conducting a friends D & G a couple of years back.

Remember he was also on the star chamber so dont feel any pity for him

cxflyer 21st Feb 2008 21:45

Dumb and Dumber
 
What goes around comes around. Isn't pride (ego) one of the seven deadly sins?

oldsmithy 21st Feb 2008 23:32

He might be old and BALD but not very bold.....................

Mr. Bloggs 22nd Feb 2008 01:01

Dexy, haven’t been around much have you?:bored:

Firing, terminations are the Cathay Pacific way of dealing with stuff like this.:confused::ugh:

Christ, if you throw peanuts you get fired.:{

What goes around comes around.:ok:


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