Thanks Kubota

You are right about the MUFON website, it is not very impressive. I'll send on your comments about the engines . I hadn't been following that thread although I saw the 'WTC UFOs' on a Japanese website and dismissed them. Presumably if the objects were engines they were found somewhere near the wreckage?

I appreciate your comments about the crew not wanting to be bothered by nutters. I have had the same experience myself. Their other concern will be how their management looks at anyone reporting a UFO - it's not good for your promotion prospects which I also know about first hand.

As to me being a nutter - as implied - I am just a guy with enough curiousity to actually investigate rather than taking media pronouncements and disinformation at face value.

If you are interested and have enough scientific training to make your own mind up, then you may want to start by investigating two famous cases, which have never been debunked - the Trinidade photos taken by the Brazilian Navy in 1958 and presented to the UN by the President of Brazil, and the Heflin photos taken in 1965 near El Toro airbase in California. You can find information on them on the web, but I'll give you a clue, try either <a href="http://www.blackvault.com," target="_blank">www.blackvault.com,</a> which has them on the site along with a lot of other stuff, some fake, some not (yes the site is fairly lurid), or the website for the Journal of the Society for Scientific Exploration, <a href="http://www.jse.com." target="_blank">www.jse.com.</a> They're a peer reviewed Journal based at Stanford. You will be able to read the abstracts of the papers reviewing the cases if you look.

However, if you like your world view undisturbed, then my advice is DON'T look at the evidence. Keep thinking it's all nutters.