Is the CX recruitment ban still active
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Is the CX recruitment ban still active
Just trawled the CX website and read the blurb on pilot recruitment. It says they want 235 pilots this year but not quite clear if these are cadets. Are qualified pilots abstaining while wannabees needing their first break fill the gaps? I would like to join but do not feel I should re. the 49ers but if that means somebody else is going to take the slot anyway, maybe I should apply!?
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Yeah whats the story ... I've just come back into this forum for the first time in weeks to check on this very thing, because I've just been told by two of my mates in the last couple of days that I should now apply to CX because 'the ban is now over' 
Please tell me it's true!!
Please tell me it's true!!
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Definitely apply. If the ban has not been lifted by the time you are accepted (should that be the case) then you can always find a reason to delay. The AOA has never advocated not applying for a job with CX - just don't accept one whilst the ban is in place. Hopefully it will be lifted soon.
Good luck.
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No, the ban is not over, but as MR says
235 pilots sounds a bit much given current expansion (minor), but maybe they are planning on losing the current court case, and being forced to revert to the old rostering system.
The AOA has never advocated not applying for a job with CX - just don't accept one whilst the ban is in place.
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Come on you lot, I can't believe this thread has been on here for multiple days and no comment from the AOA usual suspects, makes me very suspicious to be honest 
Is it the calm before the storm? Has something changed or is about to change with regard to the ban, or what??
Is it the calm before the storm? Has something changed or is about to change with regard to the ban, or what??
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I understand the second of the -600's was delivered late dec 02.
I also understand that the 777 and A330 deliveries are spread through until end 2004.
9 aircraft over three years.
Based on the deliveries thus far (2 in '02) and the schedule of deliveries planned, my geuss is that 3 or 4 a/c will arrive in 2003. 1 long haul, the remainder short haul.
There are roughly 21 crew per a/c (flexible according to l/h s/h)
If 4 a/c arrive, about 85 recruitments are reqd to cover the expansion.
What of the remainder?
Will it be
a)150 retirements in 2003
b)150 sackings for no reason in 2003
c)150 extra crew required to cover the rostering system we should be on, when they lose the court case in 2003
In 1999/2000 CX announced orders/leases for 15 a/c for arrival in 2000/2001. When this 25% increase in fleet size was announced, they also said they would require 220 more pilots. Not up to the 20 odd crew per a/c theory is it? Why? Perhaps a change to the contract was in the breeze, and they felt they were overstaffed.
Now they say they they want a greater # of pilots, for a much smaller expansion, over a longer peiod. Why? Perhaps a change to the contract is in the breeze, and they feel they are understaffed!
All will be revealed in the course of time.
I am not trying to sound underwhelmed, but a 5% increase in fleet size in a 12 month period is hardly "major expansion"
I understand the second of the -600's was delivered late dec 02.
I also understand that the 777 and A330 deliveries are spread through until end 2004.
9 aircraft over three years.
Based on the deliveries thus far (2 in '02) and the schedule of deliveries planned, my geuss is that 3 or 4 a/c will arrive in 2003. 1 long haul, the remainder short haul.
it says they want 235 pilots this year
If 4 a/c arrive, about 85 recruitments are reqd to cover the expansion.
What of the remainder?
Will it be
a)150 retirements in 2003
b)150 sackings for no reason in 2003
c)150 extra crew required to cover the rostering system we should be on, when they lose the court case in 2003
In 1999/2000 CX announced orders/leases for 15 a/c for arrival in 2000/2001. When this 25% increase in fleet size was announced, they also said they would require 220 more pilots. Not up to the 20 odd crew per a/c theory is it? Why? Perhaps a change to the contract was in the breeze, and they felt they were overstaffed.
Now they say they they want a greater # of pilots, for a much smaller expansion, over a longer peiod. Why? Perhaps a change to the contract is in the breeze, and they feel they are understaffed!
All will be revealed in the course of time.
I am not trying to sound underwhelmed, but a 5% increase in fleet size in a 12 month period is hardly "major expansion"
Last edited by jtr; 26th Jan 2003 at 12:20.
