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Old 22nd April 2024 | 01:27
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Question About CX DEFO

Excuse me, is Cathay Pacific' company environment friendly to pilots in mainland China? Can pilots in mainland China enter the company through defo?
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Old 22nd April 2024 | 06:39
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I believe CX SOP’s still require the WX Radar to be on for the entirety of the flight. This may, but hasn’t as yet, be adjusted to allay the fears mainland pilots have of industrial cancers.

So CX has a bit of work to do, to be more inclusive of Mainland Chinese pilots.
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Old 23rd April 2024 | 08:54
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Hello,
My question is about CX DEFO final assessment ( sim & interview ) June 2024 in Hong Kong.
I recently got a invite for sim assessment and interview with CX for DEFO position. Just wondering if you could share some info about sim assessment, and interviews. feel free to send me a private message or reply this message. any tips/advice would be great.

Could anyone recently ( January, Feb, March or April ) completed the assessment confirm
- is the sim check carried out on a 777 sim.
- Day 1 is sim check only, if pass the sim check, day 2 would be panel interview, document check, medical, and English test.
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Old 27th April 2024 | 16:39
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Originally Posted by dt354nds
Hello,
My question is about CX DEFO final assessment ( sim & interview ) June 2024 in Hong Kong.
I recently got a invite for sim assessment and interview with CX for DEFO position. Just wondering if you could share some info about sim assessment, and interviews. feel free to send me a private message or reply this message. any tips/advice would be great.

Could anyone recently ( January, Feb, March or April ) completed the assessment confirm
- is the sim check carried out on a 777 sim.
- Day 1 is sim check only, if pass the sim check, day 2 would be panel interview, document check, medical, and English test.
The A330 sim is used a lot for recruitment at the moment,

The sim detail is a very complicated. IFR, takeoff, climb straight ahead, level off, fly downwind, fly base, fly and ILS, and land. The standards are very high, could you believe they want you to maintain the centerline on takeoff and landing, maintain the assigned track on climb and downwind. Maintain the altitude on downwind and base, fly the ILS within normal tolerances, and land on the runway, not the grass on the side. No extra credit given for demonstrating a spiral dive during turns.
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Old 28th April 2024 | 01:10
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Good summary swh. I’d just add to try and keep the bank 25 degrees or less all the way round, the 60 degree bank localiser intercept is fancy but as you say the spiral dive isn’t appreciated for some reason.
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The sim detail is a very complicated. IFR, takeoff, climb straight ahead, level off, fly downwind, fly base, fly and ILS, and land.
Crikey, is that really all they do nowadays? Back in the day, DEFO candidates were also required to fly a missed approach from the minima, followed by a second approach with one engine inop after an engine fire. Candidates didn’t need to know the aircraft-specific emergency procedures, but they were expected to demonstrate basic crew coordination and the ability to fly an accurate approach with one engine inop. How times change…
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Old 28th April 2024 | 06:15
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For the tech interview and to ensure cultural differences don’t come into play, what would determine the best alternate in CX is based on operational factors, not what alternate has the best allowances or meal chits.
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Old 29th April 2024 | 01:28
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Crikey, is that really all they do nowadays? Back in the day, DEFO candidates were also required to fly a missed approach from the minima, followed by a second approach with one engine inop after an engine fire. Candidates didn’t need to know the aircraft-specific emergency procedures, but they were expected to demonstrate basic crew coordination and the ability to fly an accurate approach with one engine inop. How times change…


And that was on the steam-gauge instrument 747-200 sim!
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Old 29th April 2024 | 04:30
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Originally Posted by swh
The A330 sim is used a lot for recruitment at the moment,

The sim detail is a very complicated. IFR, takeoff, climb straight ahead, level off, fly downwind, fly base, fly and ILS, and land. The standards are very high, could you believe they want you to maintain the centerline on takeoff and landing, maintain the assigned track on climb and downwind. Maintain the altitude on downwind and base, fly the ILS within normal tolerances, and land on the runway, not the grass on the side. No extra credit given for demonstrating a spiral dive during turns.
Are you allowed to use 'the bird' during the sim session?
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Old 29th April 2024 | 07:53
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Are you allowed to use 'the bird' during the sim session?
How about "Attitude + power = performance"?
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Old 29th April 2024 | 09:45
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Originally Posted by BuzzBox
Crikey, is that really all they do nowadays? Back in the day, DEFO candidates were also required to fly a missed approach from the minima, followed by a second approach with one engine inop after an engine fire. Candidates didn’t need to know the aircraft-specific emergency procedures, but they were expected to demonstrate basic crew coordination and the ability to fly an accurate approach with one engine inop. How times change…
I think I need to do a learners world module on delivering sarcasm, obviously it’s not up to scratch.
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And that was on the steam-gauge instrument 747-200 sim!
And the equally steam driven Tri-Motor before that!
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Old 29th April 2024 | 09:55
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Originally Posted by swh
I think I need to do a learners world module on delivering sarcasm, obviously it’s not up to scratch.
Nah, it was fine. I was just having a dig (not at you)…
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Originally Posted by BuzzBox
Crikey, is that really all they do nowadays? Back in the day, DEFO candidates were also required to fly a missed approach from the minima, followed by a second approach with one engine inop after an engine fire. Candidates didn’t need to know the aircraft-specific emergency procedures, but they were expected to demonstrate basic crew coordination and the ability to fly an accurate approach with one engine inop. How times change…
For Singapore airlines it's just take off, steep turn, vor intercept, downwind and land
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Old 10th June 2024 | 12:14
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It’s exactly that way, I pass my exam in feb 2024 and was a miss approach, follow by eng fire, a tricky stuff in middle to see if you re paying attention in the cockpit, and ILs again with only 1 eng. (the whole sim raw data) Same as in the old times it seems as per your words. So no worries, it seems a DEFO can still land a plane with one engine inop if you have a heart attack.
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Old 10th June 2024 | 12:24
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And that was on the steam-gauge instrument 747-200 sim!
Yea I’m sure it was different in the old times, however this days aviation is taking a different pathway, self drives drones, Kids playing with drones all over around the world, AI, Quantum Computers, is a new world with no room for dinosaurs stuck in the past. If we keep with this actitudes airlines will replace us for kids with 1000 hours in MSFS who will control de IA in the cockpit. We need to understand the new times, teach the key things to new generations and learn from this new kids, they born with an iPad below the arm. When you was a kid (me too) color tv didn’t exist. Keep moving and learn from the future, because what’s is coming it’s brilliant.
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You were lucky. For CX interview I 'ad to do an engine failure on take off in an HS125 simulator (in my own country!) with a series yaw damper that kept it straight as an arrow after take off without additional rudder, intercept a VOR radial outbound, (my brain hurt) radar to ILS IMC and missed approach, visual to land.
With a checker in the right seat old enough to be my step father who acted as a perfect first officer.

An' you tell kids these days...

/:Yorkshire accent off/:

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Where are Direct entry FO's going, which fleet seems the most probable?

Not a chance I'd be interested in taking a 320 spot or 330 for that matter.
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Old 19th June 2024 | 22:44
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You were lucky. For CX interview I 'ad to do an engine failure on take off in an HS125 simulator (in my own country!) with a series yaw damper that kept it straight as an arrow after take off without additional rudder, intercept a VOR radial outbound, (my brain hurt) radar to ILS IMC and missed approach, visual to land.
With a checker in the right seat old enough to be my step father who acted as a perfect first officer.

An' you tell kids these days...

/:Yorkshire accent off/:
Did the checker have a “Captain Obvious” beard and an unlit pipe hanging out of his gob like when I interviewed?
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Old 20th June 2024 | 00:33
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I wouldn’t worry Skippy, I don’t think you’ll have to make that decision.
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