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Old 17th Jan 2024, 09:53
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Finally some truth on the subject by the press

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2024-01-16/air-travel-cathay-pacific-is-learning-a-hard-lesson-on-pilots&ved=2ahUKEwjD84LQoOSDAxUWSDABHdQBD00QxfQBKAB6BAgMEAI& usg=AOvVaw2VUkcAqCjZGsp2avzX_9Hb
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For those of you who would like to read the article:
Air Travel: Cathay Pacific Is Learning a Hard Lesson on Pilots - Bloomberg

By Tim Culpan | Tim Culpan is a Bloomberg Opinion columnist covering technology in Asia. Previously, he was a technology reporter for Bloomberg News

Cathay Pacific Airways Ltd. is facing a crisis of its own making. While the problems started in 2020 at the height of the Covid pandemic, the current drama of cancelled flights and a rush to rewrite the airline’s operational handbook was foreseeable, and preventable.

The first sign of danger came in December, when hundreds of flights were cancelled over the Christmas-New Year period due to a shortage of pilots. The airline blamed a higher-than-normal rate of illness. Cathay then scrapped around a dozen flights per day through the end of February — including the peak Lunar New Year period. The bigger problem, as Bloomberg News reported, is that many pilots have hit their 900-hour cap. In order to limit fatigue, international regulation limit pilots to flying no more than 900 hours in any rolling 12-month period.
There is a bit more, but that's how it starts.
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As said on another threat, they deserve what they get. Even a 50% increase on what they have now wouldn't even put it close to any other ME carrier. If I want to be treated like an animal, at least give me a golden cage. They seem to forget that we notice that their golden cage is actually "stick and stones".
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Thanks Admin for fixing it.

Here's the rest of the article:

Cathay had been warned. In June, the pilots union said a return to the pre-pandemic level of flights wouldn’t be possible until the carrier filled an existing gap of around 1,400 experienced pilots. By August, the total flights Cathay was operating had exceeded the number of captains required to fly them — an early indicator of what eventually ensued in December. According to the union, Cathay had around one-third the number of pilots in August that it employed at the end of 2019, just before the pandemic struck.

Every airline in the world was impacted by Covid. As borders shut, flights dried up and aircraft were parked in deserts. There was nothing for pilots to do. Many were fired. Cathay closed its regional carrier, Cathay Dragon, in October 2020 and cut hundreds of pilots. All up, it
reduced headcount by 8,500, or 24% of staff, across the broader Cathay group, the company announced.

It then rewrote pilot contracts with a simple ultimatum: Take the new deal or leave. With no other jobs available,
over 2,600 pilots signed. Permanent cuts were made to base salaries, pension contributions and an education allowance, the Hong Kong Free Press wrote.

Singapore Airlines Ltd. also made large-scale retrenchments, equal to about 20% of headcount. But with the help of the government, it
redeployed many workers to healthcare roles and later reversed wage cuts implemented during the pandemic. As a result, staffing at Singapore Air and its affiliate Silk Air at the end of its fiscal year ending March 2023 was just 7% below the same period in 2019. It’s on track to hire 2,800 more crew by the end of March.

Even before the pandemic, Cathay’s situation was murky. Once a proud symbol of the former British colony, its return to profit in 2018 after back-to-back losses was overshadowed by pro-democracy protests the following year. Rather than help the airline cope with a drop in passengers during those months, Beijing
summoned the head of Cathay’s key shareholder — the Swire Group — and demanded rectification after some staff were seen siding with protestors. While the airline did get a bailout from the government, the lack of trust seemed to escalate during Covid, including strict quarantine requirements for crew.

Airlines are all competing for pilots, but Cathay is looking desperate. Last week, the company updated its operational handbook to allow pilots to apply for promotion to captain after just 3,000 flight hours, instead of the previous 4,000. Aviators climb through the ranks by logging hours and flights, and becoming captain is the pinnacle. This adjustment appears aimed at luring pilots to the airline, or to keep them there, by making promotion easier. It also ensures the operator can keep flying. We shouldn’t assume that lowering the benchmark for promotion is less safe, but it is important to note the timing of such a move: when Cathay is short of captains.

Cathay’s actions over the past few years — even preceding Covid — make it look like an airline that’s not particularly pilot friendly. For example,
its 2018 contract cut pay by around 40% and was cited by the company as a reason for its high rate of crew exodus.

Airlines knew that a pilot shortage was coming. Back in 2013, Boeing Co. forecast the global aviation industry would need to hire 498,000 new pilots over the coming decade. More than 192,000, or 39%, would be needed in the Asia-Pacific region. A year later, it bumped up that estimate by 7% to 533,000. It would raise that forecast again in subsequent years, and in the 2018 outlook — the year Cathay cut pay and benefits for pilots — Boeing noted that “the pilot labor supply has continued to tighten amid strong global air traffic growth.”

Despite clear evidence that pilots were hard to come by, and knowing that it could not operate without them, Cathay Pacific’s management approach has been to make the airline less and less attractive to cockpit crew. Recent
one-time bonuses and a reduction in promotion thresholds are mere Bandaids to the more systemic problems it unleashed upon itself.

If Cathay wants to keep flying uninterrupted schedules, and expand its operations, then the first step will be to recognize the importance of the pilots who keep the airline in the skies.

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Link

https://archive.ph/x43Iu

full article
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Absolutely brilliant article that for once is honest hard hitting and gets right to the heart of the issue , Cathay has a terrible management style starting with the DFO and working its way up to the top . Now they are reaping the poisonous fruit of their labours
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Absolutely brilliant article that for once is honest hard hitting and gets right to the heart of the issue , Cathay has a terrible management style starting with the DFO and working its way up to the top . Now they are reaping the poisonous fruit of their labours
The problem is ‘the architect’ (Hughes) is back and he will continue his swirely ways.The ringmaster(Healy) is also there playing his hengdi for the overlords back in London.


These are the men that implemented COS18 and sat in the mahjong rooms during COVID implementing the mass redundancies of the pilot group.

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Love to see a comparison of similar airlines, and their pre-pandemic flying levels compared to today. Presumably CX would be near the bottom?
Good article.
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Originally Posted by KABOY
The problem is ‘the architect’ (Hughes) is back and he will continue his swirely ways.The ringmaster(Healy) is also there playing his hengdi for the overlords back in London.


These are the men that implemented COS18 and sat in the mahjong rooms during COVID implementing the mass redundancies of the pilot group.
Healey, now there's a name I haven't heard for a while, he is going to be one of the main characters in my book "cnuts I have known in Aviation"
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Healey, now there's a name I haven't heard for a while, he is going to be one of the main characters in my book "cnuts I have known in Aviation"
Chair of Cathay Pacific since 6th November 2019.
Timing's perfect.
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Here he is talking it up.

I think Ronald might be the puppet and fall guy in all of this,

The masters in PEK won’t let a gweilo sit at the top so we have a new structure in place. Patrick the puppeteer.

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Pilots were leaving CX even pre Covid. Place is toxic. Were trying to close bases since 2010.
evil idiots
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“How did you go bankrupt?” Bill asked. “Two ways,” Mike said. “Gradually and then suddenly.” That's from Ernest Hemingway, in his 1926 breakthrough novel, The Sun Also Rises.
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There is no way they are at 70 percent looking at the services to all the ports around the world. I think they are skewing their statistics and not including the flights Dragonair was doing as a seperate entity. Cx are now operating the A320 to China which they never did pre covid and now using those numbers to lie about the truth about exactly what capacity they are at. They have deliberately killed the golden goose by destroying their employees contracts, all the trainers run around telling everyone how much money they earn however they are simply emperors of a pile of dirt. The company is not expanding and experience levels are dropping. That’s what happens when you fxxxk with contracts and seniority.
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Bye Bye "Gwei lo"s
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Hello mainland spies! And russians, probably.
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What a delusional idiot.
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What a delusional idiot.
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The expertise that went out the door will take many years to build back up again. It was understandable that at the height of the pandemic everyone was wondering if the world would ever be the same again but if there was any chance of recovery, key personnel such as pilots needed to be kept on.

SQ coped remarkably well by retaining nearly everyone and keeping them current, when borders opened they were able to ramp up quickly and are now back to almost pre Covid capacity. Strong government backing obviously helped.

Most of the worldwide core pilot body is back at work however those who took early retirement or left flying altogether need to be replaced and much abinitio training was delayed. Pilots may harbour resentment against a company which laid them off and be reluctant to return if they have another option.

The Middle East is recruiting again with a better package on offer than most competitors. I’m actually wondering how many pilots my company is going to lose over the next year.
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One would have to compare the past and future costs for retaining staff and the old contract to the costs of cancelations in order to make a substantial conclusion.

Additionally, let's not forget it was totally unclear when HK would open up again. Cathay was bleeding money and was at the mercy of the by far strictest Covid rules worldwide.
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