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Some of the responses on here are truly comical.
It’s not what you signed up for? CX had a huge amount of goodwill amongst the crew? Morale is low? They’ve lost credibility as an employer? It was a great company to work for? I’d be happy if they just gave me back COS08?
What drugs are you all on?
Did you not witness what management did to the A scalers, the super B scalers, the ‘99 sign or be fired, the 49ers, the Adelaide instructors, the Paris based crew? And that’s just the pilots. Have a chat to old timers from engineering, from ISD, from ground staff. Did you think that your hat and white shirt gave you special privileges? Or because C scale was a lesser package than B scale then your package was safe? The one thing management have been consistent with over the decades has been their treatment of staff and disregard for contracts.
We’ve been in and out of industrial action for 30 years with this archaic management. Contract Compliance. Maximum Safety Strategy. Training Ban. Sick outs. Infinite court cases. Then repeat every 5 years.
Where is this former credibility and goodwill you speak of?
Remember leading up to COS18 you’d been in industrial action for 4 years. In the nearly 3 years since COS18 you’ve done precisely nothing. Yet somehow this is reflective of deteriorating goodwill and morale. Are management aware of this? Are you beating your chest that hard it hurts? Are you whinging at the very highest octave? Are you writing sentences on yammer only using uppercase?
It only takes two members to form a strike motion. A contract compliance motion. A training ban motion. One member to organise a golf WhatsApp group. When you’re asking how we’ve got ourselves into this position and how we’re going to get out of it then there’s no need to look
beyond the bathroom mirror.
You’d be happy if you were still on your old contract? Really? As a collective you voted down an improvement to COS08. Twice. Initially a 7% improvement then a 1% improvement with future adjustments tied to inflation. Since then inflation is up about 20%. So to have kept the same spending power you had in 2016 that you voted down you’d need COS08 plus 20%. And if you’re consistent you’d vote that down again as being not enough to have a quality of life in Hong Kong while saving for a life beyond work.
And you’d probably be right. So be honest with yourselves about where we’ve been, where we want to go, and how we’re going to get there.
We’d need to be on COS08 plus 20% to get us back to what was on the table 7 years ago, and even that would be questionably sufficient in todays environment.
You are only getting there with some serious industrial action including striking.
Are you ready to follow a General Committee that won’t sign its own letters into a strike? If not you’re only tinkering around the periphery of your problems. And chest beating. To be honest I think that’s all most of you are prepared to do.
It’s not what you signed up for? CX had a huge amount of goodwill amongst the crew? Morale is low? They’ve lost credibility as an employer? It was a great company to work for? I’d be happy if they just gave me back COS08?
What drugs are you all on?
Did you not witness what management did to the A scalers, the super B scalers, the ‘99 sign or be fired, the 49ers, the Adelaide instructors, the Paris based crew? And that’s just the pilots. Have a chat to old timers from engineering, from ISD, from ground staff. Did you think that your hat and white shirt gave you special privileges? Or because C scale was a lesser package than B scale then your package was safe? The one thing management have been consistent with over the decades has been their treatment of staff and disregard for contracts.
We’ve been in and out of industrial action for 30 years with this archaic management. Contract Compliance. Maximum Safety Strategy. Training Ban. Sick outs. Infinite court cases. Then repeat every 5 years.
Where is this former credibility and goodwill you speak of?
Remember leading up to COS18 you’d been in industrial action for 4 years. In the nearly 3 years since COS18 you’ve done precisely nothing. Yet somehow this is reflective of deteriorating goodwill and morale. Are management aware of this? Are you beating your chest that hard it hurts? Are you whinging at the very highest octave? Are you writing sentences on yammer only using uppercase?
It only takes two members to form a strike motion. A contract compliance motion. A training ban motion. One member to organise a golf WhatsApp group. When you’re asking how we’ve got ourselves into this position and how we’re going to get out of it then there’s no need to look
beyond the bathroom mirror.
You’d be happy if you were still on your old contract? Really? As a collective you voted down an improvement to COS08. Twice. Initially a 7% improvement then a 1% improvement with future adjustments tied to inflation. Since then inflation is up about 20%. So to have kept the same spending power you had in 2016 that you voted down you’d need COS08 plus 20%. And if you’re consistent you’d vote that down again as being not enough to have a quality of life in Hong Kong while saving for a life beyond work.
And you’d probably be right. So be honest with yourselves about where we’ve been, where we want to go, and how we’re going to get there.
We’d need to be on COS08 plus 20% to get us back to what was on the table 7 years ago, and even that would be questionably sufficient in todays environment.
You are only getting there with some serious industrial action including striking.
Are you ready to follow a General Committee that won’t sign its own letters into a strike? If not you’re only tinkering around the periphery of your problems. And chest beating. To be honest I think that’s all most of you are prepared to do.
