HK Express
Joined: Aug 2016
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From: Vietnam
Before Covid the HKE package was a little better than COS18 and they were afraid that after Cx bought the company they would be put on COS18.
However the pandemic completely obliterated HKE flying schedule to almost zero, so everyone was out on a much reduced package, figures very similar to mentioned above.
As they move out of the pandemic and into a more fruitful flying schedule it will be interesting to see what they do with the package. They will have to increase it to recruit expat candidates but they can’t return to what it was before as that is better than COS18 and you can’t have your LCC being better paid than the mainline.
However the pandemic completely obliterated HKE flying schedule to almost zero, so everyone was out on a much reduced package, figures very similar to mentioned above.
As they move out of the pandemic and into a more fruitful flying schedule it will be interesting to see what they do with the package. They will have to increase it to recruit expat candidates but they can’t return to what it was before as that is better than COS18 and you can’t have your LCC being better paid than the mainline.
Joined: May 2004
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From: 3.5 from TD
Joined: Aug 2020
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From: Wan Chai
5% lower at GBA makes you wonder what sort of power trip was on offer for the lads who made the move. It's unsustainable long term. We are talking the airline who's mainland brethren has dangled a carrot of 787's for years with no real expansion ever being seen.
Joined: Jul 2019
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From: Hong Kong
When is the collective pilot strike coming? Since we are in a !!!!ty Chinese state known as HK do we have the right to collectively not show up to work? The strikes have worked everywhere else around the world where pilots just refused to work for !!!!ty conditions anymore. Those airlines were forced to raise renumeration packages back to the "market rate" 👍
Joined: Jan 2014
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From: Hong Kong
When is the collective pilot strike coming? Since we are in a !!!!ty Chinese state known as HK do we have the right to collectively not show up to work? The strikes have worked everywhere else around the world where pilots just refused to work for !!!!ty conditions anymore. Those airlines were forced to raise renumeration packages back to the "market rate" 👍
Joined: Jan 2018
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From: Saigon
I heard it around 50K HKD all inclusive plus a few hundred for flt pay + BOND (famous chinese BOND) .. not much. good luck for any expats bring up a family and kids.
Joined: Dec 2020
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From: HK
You berate anyone interested in HKE, CX, GBA or AHK…..but you stay.
You b1tch and moan incessantly about CX…..but you stay.
You claim everyone’s resigning …..but you stay.
You loath your employer….but you stay.
You have lost 40-60% of your income…..but you stay.
You are going backwards financially…..but you stay.
Your so called freedoms and quality of live are eroded daily…..but you stay.
You actually enjoy that as crap as your life is, someone has it worse!
You CHOOSE to stay.
It’s about time you owned that choice.
I’m not sure its actually Stockholm Syndrome; you’re just too weak or scared to leave.
Perhaps your perceived identity or ego is just too tied up in the stripes on your shoulders.
News flash: No one cares
What’s most bizarre, and it always has been thus at CX, you actually believe that eventually it will get better and that your Management will miraculously see that the pilots were right all along.
Delusional hypocrisy at it finest.
You b1tch and moan incessantly about CX…..but you stay.
You claim everyone’s resigning …..but you stay.
You loath your employer….but you stay.
You have lost 40-60% of your income…..but you stay.
You are going backwards financially…..but you stay.
Your so called freedoms and quality of live are eroded daily…..but you stay.
You actually enjoy that as crap as your life is, someone has it worse!
You CHOOSE to stay.
It’s about time you owned that choice.
I’m not sure its actually Stockholm Syndrome; you’re just too weak or scared to leave.
Perhaps your perceived identity or ego is just too tied up in the stripes on your shoulders.
News flash: No one cares
What’s most bizarre, and it always has been thus at CX, you actually believe that eventually it will get better and that your Management will miraculously see that the pilots were right all along.
Delusional hypocrisy at it finest.
Joined: Feb 2006
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From: Bottom of the Harbour
There is no expat recognition in the province of Hong Kong.
Any gweilos who persist with the contract are doing it for the belief that they are higher up the social status ladder maybe?
Hey, I can employ a DH who’s contract has more protections than COS21, but I still like all those people running around calling me Captain…anywhere else I get called ‘Bud,Mate or You’
Any gweilos who persist with the contract are doing it for the belief that they are higher up the social status ladder maybe?
Hey, I can employ a DH who’s contract has more protections than COS21, but I still like all those people running around calling me Captain…anywhere else I get called ‘Bud,Mate or You’
Joined: Nov 2015
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From: HK-CRoC
Legal Strike ?
Joined: Mar 2018
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From: London
Joined: Nov 2015
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From: HK-CRoC
Really
You basically have agreed to operating the aircraft for free and pay exorbitant housing, schooling & healthcare without assistance. That red line in the sand was crossed a long time ago, what's one more ask now ??
Apathy, the eighth deadly sin.......
Apathy, the eighth deadly sin.......
Joined: Dec 2020
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From: HK
You could tattoo it on their foreheads and they still wouldn’t listen…
Joined: Jan 2014
Posts: 55
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From: Hong Kong
as much as I agree with the predicament that CX has often made "suspicious" interpretations of statements to suit themselves, from a judicial point of view it really isnt up to them to decide what is legal or not?
Joined: Nov 2015
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From: HK-CRoC
Ohhhhh
