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Things are starting to open up?

Old 1st Aug 2021, 13:30
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I have a feeling that once things are back to normal there will be a severe shortage of pilots.

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Old 1st Aug 2021, 15:17
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Feel free to go yourself . Haven't you heard? Things are opening up! Apply for the job like everyone else did. If you don't make the cut then I'm afraid that me leaving isn't gonna change a thing.
And.. next time you tell someone to "go back where they came from" without actually saying it, maybe be a bit more subtle.
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Old 1st Aug 2021, 17:26
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Why are pilots the saddest bunch of losers in the world, all want to think they have attended Top gun and in realtiy they spend more time fighting on PPRuNe then actually fighting for there own contract.....
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Old 1st Aug 2021, 18:15
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Old 1st Aug 2021, 23:57
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Nothing will change. We are all divided. The union was broken well before the covid hit. No one will fight for better. Those remaining will scramble to climb into those positions of perceived status only to retire with less than they would have if they had preserved their original pay and conditions. Yes pilots are the saddest bunch of losers you will find. Just listen to the conversations at the MFC.
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Old 2nd Aug 2021, 02:50
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Something like 50% of the world's airline pilots are out of work now, what shortage are you talking about? Let's not forget COS18 was introduced before the pandemic.
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Old 2nd Aug 2021, 06:48
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While world traffic may recover I’m not sure Hong Kong will go breaking any records for years to come.
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Old 2nd Aug 2021, 08:44
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Bloody hell guys

If it isn't the classic KA vs CX (now with UO and LD thrown in for good measure), it's 777 vs 747 vs Bus, or locals vs expats, or some other mindless s--t slinging contest.

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Old 2nd Aug 2021, 10:10
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and as usual the winner is CX
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Old 2nd Aug 2021, 12:39
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I believe the locals vs expat fire ignited when the locals went crying in court to get rid of the expats.....
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Old 2nd Aug 2021, 14:54
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Hmmmmm.... Try, early 90's. If you knew your company history, you'd know 'your colleagues' who you refer to as 'locals' owe the 'expats' nothing.
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Old 4th Aug 2021, 04:12
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POS18 didn't attract airline pilots, it attracted 400 hour (total time) C172 instructors. Of the 120 Aussie pilots only 20 or so have asked to return (and most of them don't yet have visas). Since the guys were on zero pay they had to find other work and POS18 isn't good enough to attract them back. Ten a week are quitting CX as POS18 isn't good enough to retain them. Around the world many have left the industry and most of the large pilot-mills have shut. So, yes there will be a pilot shortage, especially for CX with POS18.
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Old 4th Aug 2021, 04:47
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Not in the short term '
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Old 8th Aug 2021, 12:07
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Things are indeed starting to open up - just not for CXi.

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