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Single Pilot plant for the A350

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Single Pilot plant for the A350

Old 28th Jun 2021, 03:02
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Id love to see a bunch of drones taxing in PVG !
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Old 28th Jun 2021, 05:56
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I feel like the majority of post have been missing a key issue.

we are not talking about fully automated AI pilotless aircraft. They are simply reducing one pilot in a low work load environment.

the subject of weather deviation is none event as there will still be one pilot there to make the decision plus the ground based pilot.

the focus should what happens when the one pilot is away for 20mins after demolishing the first class steak and unfortunately the a50 is well equipped to handle all situations that can arise.

like it or not, single pilot cruise is coming.
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Old 28th Jun 2021, 07:54
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yes that’s coming, I was talking about fully automated.
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Old 28th Jun 2021, 08:17
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The low work environment can change within a second. Then you end up with one person having to deal with a situation that needs at least two. One flying and one to see what is going on and what to do next. And the one guy left can collapse or be hit by cockpit window shrapnel or similar and be knocked out of duty as well anytime.
It is not responsible to plan like this.

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Old 28th Jun 2021, 09:38
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Imagine if you will, three generations of aircraft forward in time. The aircraft will be designed to cope with every single emergency. Chap in the front will be there to polish his four bars and whistle to himself.

No question whatsoever that today’s aircraft are neither capable nor safe without the presence of two chaps up front debating erudite tax laws or investment strategies.
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Old 28th Jun 2021, 13:41
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Chaps? Chaps?
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Old 28th Jun 2021, 13:57
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ok so how many years are we talking for 3 generations ahead?
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Old 29th Jun 2021, 09:49
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CX admit they "burning" $250,000,000 HKD a week ! Trading below $7 bucks with no end in sight, I'd say Single Pilot ops is the last thing they need to be talking about.
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Old 30th Jun 2021, 09:33
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Never waste a good crisis.
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Old 30th Jun 2021, 10:00
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But at least there's money for gender neutral bathrooms in Cathay City.
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Old 30th Jun 2021, 19:53
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Being a cisgender binary male I can’t wait to mark my territory in those bathrooms.

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Old 5th Jul 2021, 00:11
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Last thing they need ??


Please folks stop kidding yourselves. CX will not be in business to see this fantasy come to fruition. They’re being run out of business sure as attracts flies. If you say “ oh no its the China Virus which occurred naturally” you need therapy plus a different News channel package on your cable tv ( which likely you will no longer be able to afford if you’re in HK) 🧐 CX, Merlin and the rest of the pompous Princelings have truly been #Shanghaied!
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Old 5th Jul 2021, 14:59
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Two points not yet mentioned.
Terrorist attack and insurance cover.

A dedicated, trained and suicidal terrorist unit taking over or disabling an en route control facility, with jamming equipment powerful enough to disable alternative control methods, even in a limited area, cannot be discounted now or until terrorism has ceased.

Right now the prospect of the aviation insurance market giving cover for hulls, passenger liability and third party liability are zero. A few maverick underwriters might be prepared to take a small share but none of the leading syndicates or companies would touch it. Imagine if two 300 seat aircraft either deliberately, as a result of terrorist action or a failure of equipment, were to collide overhead a crowded city centre and crash to the ground, the final bill would run to billions and the aviation insurance market would suspend all airline insurance, nothing would move.
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