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Australia closed to foreigners until 2021

Old 18th Jun 2020, 12:47
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This is shit news for us trying to stay employed.

What a Nanny State - canít believe you need an exit permit in 2020.

If Aussies wanna travel then let them.

Ēbut the Prime Minister said...Ē
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 13:20
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Originally Posted by Climb150 View Post
As for point 2, Some Australians are still stuck overseas with many countries not allowing any travel. Many people are being made redundant in the ME from the big 3.

How could they have just "dropped everything" at the start and come home?
Sure, some are in those sort of unfortunate situations but hundreds are/were just ignorant, either way why should the public fund this? This is typical of the world we live in now that nobody wants to be responsible for themselves, particularly if it costs them...
If you are a citizen you can get back in but you should be responsible for the cost not everybody else. Fortunately this is about to change.
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 13:47
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Originally Posted by Mill Worker View Post
If you are a citizen you can get back in but you should be responsible for the cost not everybody else. Fortunately this is about to change.
Aussies pay but international students get in for free...
https://www.theguardian.com/australi...me-coronavirus

Please explain?
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 14:04
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Originally Posted by michigan j View Post
Oh god, does this apply to passengers as well?
That's funny
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 16:04
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Well said 150,

Mill Worker - you are a muppet and out of touch with the industry and the plight of all concerned. Lots of people are doing it hard.

You need to get out more.

Go away; I donít think Iím the lone voice here.

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Old 18th Jun 2020, 23:03
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Sorry A2, I think you will find just about the entire population (outside the aviation and education sectors perhaps) is very comfortable with the current international border restrictions (not so the domestic restrictions). My comments are not about the aviation industry they are about the well being of the wider community. If you would wish a UK style outbreak upon Australia well that is your opinion and you are entitled to it. I know many people from many airlines that are out of work and may never work again which is very unfortunate for them but it is preferable to the potential alternative. There are hundreds of thousands of business making sacrifices at the moment for the greater good and they don't want that work unwound.

It is better to read posts in context rather than from a rather selfish perspective.
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Old 18th Jun 2020, 23:48
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I think you will find that the foreign student 14 day hotel quarantine is being funded jointly by the Universities and the ACT government...not the federal!

In reference to the domestic border restrictions....support for the Queensland premier’s tough stance on keeping the border closed is running close to 70% even though the media is saying to open. Australian borders closed is also supported by the vast majority of the population except if you are in the travel and tourism business...so I can’t see this changing for quite some time except for the bubble with NZ...
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Old 19th Jun 2020, 01:24
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Originally Posted by Fluke View Post
No Booze on flights in Australia (domestic/international), to help lessen contact with cabin crew. why would you want to fly !
Just leave me the bottle.
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Old 19th Jun 2020, 02:02
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Originally Posted by cynphil View Post
In reference to the domestic border restrictions....support for the Queensland premierís tough stance on keeping the border closed is running close to 70% even though the media is saying to open...
Ditto for Western Australia. Border restrictions are regarded as WA's primary defence against COVID-19 and the WA Government has said the domestic border will not re-open until there is no community transmission in the other states (ie Victoria). There is overwhelming public support in WA for that position. The virus has effectively been eradicated in WA and, apart from the travel restrictions, life is rapidly getting back to normal.
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Old 19th Jun 2020, 02:15
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WA will crack quickly once they start missing out on domestic tourism and international student money. The only thing holding it back now is Victoria is just creating enough bad press to give him something to hold onto his PR but the dollars will trump it soon.
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Old 19th Jun 2020, 02:36
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I doubt that. For a start, the policy on international student arrivals is controlled by the Federal Government and seems likely to go ahead with the existing 14-day quarantine requirement. Further, WA Government data shows that interstate visitors only contribute about 16% of the total value added to the WA economy by tourism. The vast majority (over 50%) of that total value comes from within WA. Under the current restrictions, some of the value that might have been added by interstate tourism is likely to be recouped by locals spending more money in WA.

The WA Premier's approval rating is running at about 89%, the highest of any leader in the country. His handling of the epidemic has the backing of around 90-95% of the WA public. I doubt that he will cave in to pressure from the other States or the Commonwealth any time soon.

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Old 19th Jun 2020, 03:11
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Well researched but you must have missed the part where the PM said if you can’t go from Sydney to Perth then you can’t go from Singapore to Perth. Or if your state is not open to Australia then you won’t be getting any international students. I’m not sure how many international students go to uni in WA but the answer will be some and you can bet those University’s will be in the WA premiers ear. But I agree entirely that the premiers are driven by their approval ratings, not COVID rates.

edit - I do now, 2017 figures, 50,000 international students, $1.9 billion dollars.
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Old 19th Jun 2020, 03:49
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https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-...lysis/12371472

BuzzBox,

Looks like WA might open very soon
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Old 19th Jun 2020, 03:52
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Originally Posted by ozbiggles View Post
Well researched but you must have missed the part where the PM said if you canít go from Sydney to Perth then you canít go from Singapore to Perth..
I did see that comment, but I think it's just political posturing to put pressure on the states to open their domestic borders. In terms of biosecurity, there's zero logic in the PM denying international students the right to enter Perth if he's going to allow them to enter Sydney or Canberra.
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Old 19th Jun 2020, 04:59
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One of the best political quotes ever ‘Never stand between a premier and a bucket of money’. With the worst unemployment figures and the other states opening up to tourism and international students it won’t be long. The court case could go a number of ways too. It might have been in the closed States favour a few weeks ago but the number now opens weakens the health argument to keep WA shut but I don’t think the case will be up before the border is open. End of July I reckon all based on the politics, makes him look like he held out longer but not to long to affect the opinion poles, announced by this Sunday.
As for the international borders outside the Tasman, mid 2021 the earliest with no 14 day quarantine and that is only if some form of control is gained over COVID.

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Old 19th Jun 2020, 05:56
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Originally Posted by Mill Worker View Post
Sure, some are in those sort of unfortunate situations but hundreds are/were just ignorant, either way why should the public fund this? This is typical of the world we live in now that nobody wants to be responsible for themselves, particularly if it costs them...
If you are a citizen you can get back in but you should be responsible for the cost not everybody else. Fortunately this is about to change.
Quarantine is there to protect the Australian public, not those returning to Australia, so why should the travellers pay for your safety? Prisoners don't pay for their jail.
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Old 19th Jun 2020, 05:58
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Originally Posted by AQIS Boigu View Post
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-06-...lysis/12371472

BuzzBox,

Looks like WA might open very soon
...and yet the State Government insisted yesterday the unemployment data won't affect its decision on when to re-open the border. See the WA Treasurer's remarks from about 2:00 in yesterday's interview:
facebook dot com/abcperth/videos/654588441793228/

The Government is certainly under pressure, but remember the unemployment data lags the current state of the employment market by about a month. For example, the May unemployment data released yesterday only reflects the market to mid-May, before the Government began easing restrictions, and was expected to be dire. The June figures, released mid-July, should show the effect of easing the restrictions. In any case, I doubt the unemployment data will sway the Government's decision making in the short term; the decision to re-open the border (or not) will be based on the health outcomes in the other states over the next few weeks.

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Old 19th Jun 2020, 06:01
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Originally Posted by rmcdonal View Post
Quarantine is there to protect the Australian public, not those returning to Australia, so why should the travellers pay for your safety? Prisoners don't pay for their jail.

pure Gold.
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Old 19th Jun 2020, 06:12
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You can’t fight logic like that...
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Old 19th Jun 2020, 06:35
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They will just watch......
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