HK Express
Joined: Oct 2007
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From: hong kong
HK Express is gearing up for a larger future role for short haul china & SE asia ops out of hk. With KA diverting some of its A320 Neo’s to hke, we can all see the writing is on the ( lavatory) wall for KA.
HKE recruitment will chance their arm, and offer lower T&Cs than the incumbents, and that includes HKA, who were the poor pilots of hk.
In the current climate, I would expect that they will have an abundance of qualified crews applying, many from europe. This will continue for the foreseeable future, as the true effects of Covid19 are felt throughout the industry.
HKE are cash rich. They will survive and expand. They need crews. Better to earn than not. The real concern will be Cathay Dragon, with their antiquated crewing COS , that is high cost for lower productivity. They are stifled by unionisation, multi layered management and an ageing workforce.
It would be hilareous to see guys leaving ka to go to hke. Even mentioning this 2 years ago would be net with a what the f#$# are you talking about. The new normal?
HKE recruitment will chance their arm, and offer lower T&Cs than the incumbents, and that includes HKA, who were the poor pilots of hk.
In the current climate, I would expect that they will have an abundance of qualified crews applying, many from europe. This will continue for the foreseeable future, as the true effects of Covid19 are felt throughout the industry.
HKE are cash rich. They will survive and expand. They need crews. Better to earn than not. The real concern will be Cathay Dragon, with their antiquated crewing COS , that is high cost for lower productivity. They are stifled by unionisation, multi layered management and an ageing workforce.
It would be hilareous to see guys leaving ka to go to hke. Even mentioning this 2 years ago would be net with a what the f#$# are you talking about. The new normal?
Joined: Jun 2002
Aviation Qualifications: ATPL
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From: Eden Valley
KA productivity is a metric of its operating environment. Stifled by unionisation? We haven't been in contract compliance for a decade. Ageing workforce? You seem to oddly be dissing your own having sat pretty due old guys and stifling unionism. Perhaps its all coming crashing down, for the most part I'm thankful of folks before me, who preserved and improved COS and pushed back on a wide array of safety issues and maintained good standards.
Last edited by Gnadenburg; 8th May 2020 at 01:42.
Joined: Mar 2016
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From: Rabbit Hutch
Cash rich! You are so funny Krone. HKE’s flight cancellations are now until 30th June and no doubt will go well beyond that too.
You may not have noticed but we all have the same boss. Massive changes are about to happen and we are all in the same sinking boat.
We’ll all be on a new common CoS. Time to adjust to the “new normal” as they say.
You may not have noticed but we all have the same boss. Massive changes are about to happen and we are all in the same sinking boat.
We’ll all be on a new common CoS. Time to adjust to the “new normal” as they say.
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 103
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From: Lonely planet
HK Express is gearing up for a larger future role for short haul china & SE asia ops out of hk. With KA diverting some of its A320 Neo’s to hke, we can all see the writing is on the ( lavatory) wall for KA.
HKE recruitment will chance their arm, and offer lower T&Cs than the incumbents, and that includes HKA, who were the poor pilots of hk.
In the current climate, I would expect that they will have an abundance of qualified crews applying, many from europe. This will continue for the foreseeable future, as the true effects of Covid19 are felt throughout the industry.
HKE are cash rich. They will survive and expand. They need crews. Better to earn than not. The real concern will be Cathay Dragon, with their antiquated crewing COS , that is high cost for lower productivity. They are stifled by unionisation, multi layered management and an ageing workforce.
It would be hilareous to see guys leaving ka to go to hke. Even mentioning this 2 years ago would be net with a what the f#$# are you talking about. The new normal?
HKE recruitment will chance their arm, and offer lower T&Cs than the incumbents, and that includes HKA, who were the poor pilots of hk.
In the current climate, I would expect that they will have an abundance of qualified crews applying, many from europe. This will continue for the foreseeable future, as the true effects of Covid19 are felt throughout the industry.
HKE are cash rich. They will survive and expand. They need crews. Better to earn than not. The real concern will be Cathay Dragon, with their antiquated crewing COS , that is high cost for lower productivity. They are stifled by unionisation, multi layered management and an ageing workforce.
It would be hilareous to see guys leaving ka to go to hke. Even mentioning this 2 years ago would be net with a what the f#$# are you talking about. The new normal?
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 95
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From: Vietnam
Post Covid19, when the dust begins to settle, HKE’s LCC model is going to be the way forward, with cash strapped pax, who still want to get away. HKE will be expanded unfortunately, probably at the expense of KA.
It won’t just be Japan but all across China and South East Asia. I genuinely feel for all fellow pilots that are going to have a life change from all this.But WRT HKE I don’t subscribe to the doomsday scenario, because we represent where CX want to take the rest of you.
It won’t just be Japan but all across China and South East Asia. I genuinely feel for all fellow pilots that are going to have a life change from all this.But WRT HKE I don’t subscribe to the doomsday scenario, because we represent where CX want to take the rest of you.
Joined: Mar 2015
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From: Australia
http://www.thestandard.com.hk/breaki...-restructuring
No other papers though.
Local media reported today that the airline operator was planning to scrap the operation of Cathay Dragon and merge the branch with HK Express, to form a new company Cathay Express, citing market sources. Cathay Pacific also planned to lay off staff and cut 30 percent of the salary of its pilots, sources said.
Joined: Sep 2007
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From: 1st Floor
C scale is a bit different. The company can remove all variable components.
Better 30% reduction than no job.
Senior captains can afford it. Junior ones will make do.
The CX group don’t want to loose any pilots, just negotiate ( enforce?) better and more equitable deal with those it has .
Joined: Jan 2017
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From: MEL
I have some friends at CX and KA, this rumour spread like wildfire through the frontlines, the idea that there'd be Cathay Pacific for full-service and Cathay Express as the LCC, but all seems to have been rumour. Danny Lee at SCMP was covering this and in a series of Tweets said it was all a beat-up, not even CX right now knows what the short-term future holds apparently.
