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Shame Shame Shame !!!

Old 27th Dec 2018, 07:52
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Shame Shame Shame !!!

GC recommends the failed TA 13-7.

Shame on you.
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 08:27
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You’ve got to be kidding!!
what a bunch of [email protected] clowns
Can you hear the corks popping in kitty city??
[email protected] believable!!
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 08:31
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Time for all of us to send them a message.

No No No No
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 09:27
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That's a NO from me. The arapa boys gets a decent deal. Again, the LEP gets screwed. Good job GC for NOT defending my contract. You guys should be ashamed.
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 09:29
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I have managed to have a quick look through some important aspects, and can already tell it will be a big NO from me. HKPA joke, O days are still a joke, pay what a F***ing joke. I cannot believe the GC has recommended this, it is disgusting and shameful, there are some ulterior motives in our GC that is certain. SHAME

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Old 27th Dec 2018, 09:53
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Argh, c’mon guys! If we don’t come to an agreement after six more month’s negotiations under GFBA etc, we will get a 1.00% payrise!! And don’t forget that we are an airline losing money. Read the annual results. Apart from HK$25,000,000,000 being written off in perhaps the greatest fuel hedging scam in aviation, we are in dire straights. And the new HKPA is only 30% behind KA now.

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Old 27th Dec 2018, 11:23
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Disgrace. Make sure everybody knows the names of those who voted yes!

Those on the GC who voted NO, thank you for having integrity and a backbone. Please make sure you remove the anonymity of your fellow GC members who voted yes. Let them explain to every AOA member they meet why they voted yes.
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 11:36
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The arapa boys gets a decent deal. Again, the LEP gets screwed.
I fail to see how you have come to that opinion. This is a shit deal for everyone. Did you say that because we continue to get the housing we signed up for? If that is the case the HKPA guys/girls are getting a better deal as there is an increase (an unsatisfactory one in my opinion) to the deal they signed up for.
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 12:04
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GC, Iím confused...

Are you recommending this deal on its merits or are you recommending this deal because you believe the membership lacks the backbone to fight for a better contract?

No one genuinely believes this deal stands on its merit, so this begs the questions why did you stand for GC election if you donít believe in your members.

Seriously, why did you bother standing?
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 12:31
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Lets not fall for the divide and rule trap girls. It's a sh*t deal for everyone concerned.
N.O.
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 12:49
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BIG FAT NO!
Go ahead and let them recruit from the Galapagos Islands, Lithuania, Tonga or Kyrgyzstan!!!
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 12:59
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So now blocks of 3 days reserve with 3 O days all free
60 days a year
run forest run
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 14:10
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Originally Posted by turnandburn View Post
So now blocks of 3 days reserve with 3 O days all free
60 days a year
run forest run
Where did you see that??? according to the table, following 3 days of reserve, you ll be rostered 1 O and 2 Gs.

But I agree with you. Run.
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 14:13
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The end of HKAOA in the making.
What a shit deal.
Commence and execute exit procedure.
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 14:37
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13-7??? Sounds like the offer was too rich then. The Company shoots for 11-9 or even 10-10 with a Chairman tie breaker.

This pos will pass because expats will vote to keep ARAPA and enough of the CEPs will be like dogs grateful for any scraps falling off the table as long as they are promised their precious upgrades.

CoS18 waiting in the wings... Thatís the Companyís ultimate goal. The attacks WILL continue. Commuting contract on CoS18 anyone?

When will we learn? Just down the fxxxing tools already! Should have happened back in Ď94 and many times since.
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 16:04
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Looks like we are finally getting to the Battle of the Bulge. To me at this point itís both shameful and baffling that the union would recommend retreat but I guess there ya have it. Canít speak toward possible motivations but at least the membership has the final say.
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 16:04
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Agreed CXORCIST.
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 18:01
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Can anyone confirm the rumour that Winnie the Pooh and Tigger were involved in writing the company proposal?
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Old 27th Dec 2018, 19:16
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Battle of the Bulge



Close all the doors, hush the crowds, still the winds and you'll hear it...... yes ladies and gentlemen......, that's the fat lady singing..

#CXit

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Old 27th Dec 2018, 22:12
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The only thing that should be recommended is psychiatric help for the GC.
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