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Old 15th Aug 2018, 23:23
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Ouch... wonder how long that will take to fix?


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Old 15th Aug 2018, 23:38
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Those lowest bidder rampers sure are paying dividends!
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Old 16th Aug 2018, 01:45
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It's just a flesh wound.
Some speed tape, , a blind eye from HKCAD and an SADD should fix it.

I wonder if the the FCO wing walker has gone walkabout the same as the MH engineer who left the pitot covers on the MH aircraft that took off a couple of weeks ago out of BNE.
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Old 16th Aug 2018, 03:07
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https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/...e-rome-airport

On Wednesday, a notice to passengers due to fly on CX292 said “due to operational constraints, this flight will not be carrying passengers”
Yes, I suppose a significantly damaged wing is a 'constraint'
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Old 16th Aug 2018, 05:42
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Just add an extra ton or two to account for the increased wing drag should be good to go . On a more serious note one has to wonder how much damage was done to the main spar
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Old 16th Aug 2018, 06:54
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It is most likely in the hands of the insurers now unless CX decide to save their deductible and pay for it themselves 100%. Hopefully, for everyone's sake, they bring in the specialist Boeing repair team.
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Old 16th Aug 2018, 07:00
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If I'm not mistaken will be the handlers insurance to cover costs for repair and losses, not CX...
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Old 16th Aug 2018, 08:03
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Aviation Insurance claims repairs have to be completed in the most cost-effective manner. The use of OEM repair teams normally adds a significant cost to repairs and engineering teams will often go down this route and then when the bill comes (which often ends up in another department dealing with Insurers) it will get assessed on that basis and Insurers may not agree to pay the full amount if there was a more cost-effective option.

Rationalfunctions is correct, two possibilities if no agreement between parties exists then liability will probably be unlimited against the ground handler. If there is a standard ground handling agreement in place between the operator and ground handler then certain limits of liability will apply.

Whilst the damage looks bad it looks like it has missed the trailing edge wing spar. The raked wingtip can be replaced as can the trailing edge panels. Probably the biggest part of the job will be the replacement of the wing tip closeout rib which can be seen bent inwards in some of the pictures online.
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Old 16th Aug 2018, 08:12
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If I'm not mistaken will be the handlers insurance to cover costs for repair and losses, not CX...
Aciation insurance in my experience covers the repair related costs only, ie repair, parking, hanger etc

Lost opportunity etc not covered.
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Old 16th Aug 2018, 09:15
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Was there anymore proof needed that this airline is going backwards...
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Old 16th Aug 2018, 09:23
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Now that's pushing it...
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Old 16th Aug 2018, 09:49
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If you think that's just a little sheet metal work take a look at composite repair requirements!!!
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Old 16th Aug 2018, 10:34
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All this cost-cutting is really clipping our wings...
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Old 16th Aug 2018, 11:26
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I understand that they are looking for any excuse to cover up flight cancellations due to lack of crews but this is going a step too far
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Old 16th Aug 2018, 11:57
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How did the pilot do that?
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Old 16th Aug 2018, 13:08
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Is that a buckle I see in the slat/LED just outboard of the engine? (Apologies not a current 777 fellow).
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Old 16th Aug 2018, 13:37
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Is that a buckle I see in the slat/LED just outboard of the engine? (Apologies not a current 777 fellow).
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It looks like it's just a reflection of the engine on the shiny under-surface.
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Old 16th Aug 2018, 13:53
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Given the (collision force) x (distance) = bending moment
in the 'wrong' direction
and given that the distance is the maximum possible
the main wing structure needs to be verified as fit for purpose.

This will not just buff out.
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Old 16th Aug 2018, 14:55
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The tender for pushback contracts features a “first past the post” competition
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Old 29th Aug 2018, 07:29
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Seems the aircraft has been patched up and flew to Dubai yesterday and is enroute to somewhere today... https://www.flightradar24.com/CPA3490/1dac11ab
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