Wizzzzz Air coming to town..for all ranks.
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Who's going to be living at home in wizz? Perhaps if you were born in Romania or Poland you'll be back home.... Otherwise you'll likely be commuting on an actual lcc (guess you've never flown on any of these bottom feeding gutter airlines if you think cx is in the same league.)
Fair enough feeling aggrieved over industrial relations issues, but a line must be drawn in the sand when wizzair is being championed as a viable alternative.
Fair enough feeling aggrieved over industrial relations issues, but a line must be drawn in the sand when wizzair is being championed as a viable alternative.
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Check it out,,,
They might just have a "proper" medical benefit plan unlike CX. At CX, should you or one of your family get a serious illness, it is likely you will end up having the excess deducted from your monthly pay for many years to come..
It happens with regularity and NO, these payments are not tax deductible...
The CX dental "plan" is a joke.....
It happens with regularity and NO, these payments are not tax deductible...
The CX dental "plan" is a joke.....
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Ha! You mean you're gonna end up in a state clinic more like. Have you been to an Eastern Europe public hospital? I have and it's not a pleasant experience.
I understand comparing CX to airlines like UA,BA,QF but you are completely out of touch with reality talking about Wizz.
I understand comparing CX to airlines like UA,BA,QF but you are completely out of touch with reality talking about Wizz.
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Unless it's to obtain a quick upgrade and build some hours. And Flex is correct when it comes to medical expenses in HK with CX's completely inadequate plan. A young family of four can be crippled quite quickly with pregnancy expenses, and any unexpected ilness's that occur without warning. Many pilots in CX are buried with such costs. All to 'live' in HK and enjoy SJS. Another reason that most middle ranking pilots in this airline are making firm plans to leave as quickly as they can. FO yesterday gave his notice a few weeks ago, and is leaving imminently due to a course start date that has come forward 4 weeks. I asked him about seeing out his 3 months, and he said he isn't going to compromise his new career for the one he is leaving, and "especially after the way he's been treated" (quote). Adios and best wishes.
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The irony's killing me. Again its CX guys, who berate their own company , now languish praise upon an organisation that has championed the decline of legacy careers and conditions.
They are in town for HKE HKA crew, not CX. Again, you guys think its (still) all about you.
They are in town for HKE HKA crew, not CX. Again, you guys think its (still) all about you.
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Krone, you are obviously a management plant, so your comments will be accorded credibility accordingly. I would rather work for a company that at least is honest as to the corner of the industry they inhabit, than be lied to, bullied and mistreated by a so called 'legacy' carrier that is actually a LCC in disguise. It also speaks volumes as to the mismanagement of CX that pilots are applying, interviewing and leaving for carriers that you seem to ridicule.
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Wizz will be in HK with the promise of rapid command for those who want to return to Europe.
Anyone who thinks they are in HK to target the CX captains is really living on cloud 9.
Trying to compare CX/KA to the likes of Wizz is just plain stupid. Perhaps we can follow up and compare a Mc Burger to a Ramsey Burger?
Anyone who thinks they are in HK to target the CX captains is really living on cloud 9.
Trying to compare CX/KA to the likes of Wizz is just plain stupid. Perhaps we can follow up and compare a Mc Burger to a Ramsey Burger?
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ECAM & Krone
You both seem to be happy as bottom feeders and proudly wave your "I'll work for less" flags just to take a crack at CX crew who want more from (what was) their long term career..
Hope you both enjoy life at the bottom where all you do is make cracks at those who want more in life.
#youaretheproblem
Hope you both enjoy life at the bottom where all you do is make cracks at those who want more in life.
#youaretheproblem
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As for Wizz Air, that we are even discussing it on a forum primarily containing CX pilots shows just how far the airline has fallen. There is no disputing that. Can you even imagine a thread dedicated to Wizz Air or any LCC 10 years ago?
I could be a good option for an older Captain who's financially secure and sick of ULH and HKG. If still with the first wife and the children have left home then the pay cut is manageable. For someone towards the end of their career who's achieved the wide body command in a major airline and already seen the world several times over, slowly winding down to retirement while flying for beer money might be an attractive proposition.
Need to take into account the high hours and multi sector days though.
Need to take into account the high hours and multi sector days though.
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If you think CX is bad, please consider that everywhere else has got worse as the low cost rot sets in globally. Just as CX has worsened (from what I read here), so have many jobs in Europe.
Many jobs in Europe for captains are LCC with high hours, four to five sectors in a day, time pressured turns (you simply won’t believe how everyone rushes around compared to long haul ops), scoffing your food during a short sector length before top of descent (there’s no time on the turn for a meal break!), five in a row of super early starts, flying with brand new FOs rushed through training, and ten hour days are the norm (without a break remember!).
It’s a young man’s game; very tiring mentally and physically. Many guys mid to late forties take part-time options to have more recovery time, but each day at work is still way more stressful than a long haul sector.
All this worsening of the job conditions and increase in hassle has occurred with little in the way of decent package improvements despite the huge increase in productivity over the years.
If you really must be back in Europe, maybe LCC is an option but proceed with your eyes wide open!
Many jobs in Europe for captains are LCC with high hours, four to five sectors in a day, time pressured turns (you simply won’t believe how everyone rushes around compared to long haul ops), scoffing your food during a short sector length before top of descent (there’s no time on the turn for a meal break!), five in a row of super early starts, flying with brand new FOs rushed through training, and ten hour days are the norm (without a break remember!).
It’s a young man’s game; very tiring mentally and physically. Many guys mid to late forties take part-time options to have more recovery time, but each day at work is still way more stressful than a long haul sector.
All this worsening of the job conditions and increase in hassle has occurred with little in the way of decent package improvements despite the huge increase in productivity over the years.
If you really must be back in Europe, maybe LCC is an option but proceed with your eyes wide open!
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Many of the most vocal on here have been living in a bubble in Hong Kong far detached from the realities of European lcc's.... As a result have no clue what they're talking about on this particular topic.
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Exactly what he said. Man it would be interesting to see ANY cx pilot getting a feel of wizzair!
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10 hour days?
Pfft. Easy. We frequently do 2 man, 13 hour days. Tropics to sub arctic and back to typhoon conditions and sub-par ATC, congestion all the way.
Pfft. Easy. We frequently do 2 man, 13 hour days. Tropics to sub arctic and back to typhoon conditions and sub-par ATC, congestion all the way.
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It’s a different kind of knackering. The lack of ANY quiet time to relax during the duty is the main problem, the effect of which I underestimated before entering the LCC world (having previous long haul experience).