Anna's Friday Absurdity
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Re: HK Airlines & HK Express - that would seem to be an argument in CX favour (vs the pilots) They have grown fast, offering much lower packages to crew.
Shep69 - interesting idea. This is the Jetstar/ Air Asia model, having separate companies in different countries, but all co-ordinated. So it definitely is legally feasible. Each entity would be a separate AOC, with aircraft leased from CX
Shep69 - interesting idea. This is the Jetstar/ Air Asia model, having separate companies in different countries, but all co-ordinated. So it definitely is legally feasible. Each entity would be a separate AOC, with aircraft leased from CX
The only caveat is the whole thing would take a group of folks who really know what they are doing to plan it out and would be willing to delegate important tasks to experts who also knew what they were doing.
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You are kidding me!!! CX can't even run a decent hub and spoke system from HKG. They haven't even ventured to bridge the network across the Atlantic, except on freighters during the French Beaujolais shipment season. The notion that they could pull off something complex like Norwegian does is beyond laughable.
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I don't understand you guys ( as usual)
Let's assume for a moment everything you say about management is true.
Let's assume we have the worst possible management in the industry.
Let's assume we have the worst management if any airline in the history of civil aviation.
Let's assume the people in charge at Cathay ( and Swire and Air China ) are all complete idiots and morons, just a bunch of retarded over-paid insane lunatics.
Now what?
What is the point?
The only thing we can influence is our part in the contract negotiations. The only thing.
And boy, did we screw that up.
Let's assume for a moment everything you say about management is true.
Let's assume we have the worst possible management in the industry.
Let's assume we have the worst management if any airline in the history of civil aviation.
Let's assume the people in charge at Cathay ( and Swire and Air China ) are all complete idiots and morons, just a bunch of retarded over-paid insane lunatics.
Now what?
What is the point?
The only thing we can influence is our part in the contract negotiations. The only thing.
And boy, did we screw that up.
You don't have to assume all those Management failings. They demonstrate their own failings on a weekly basis to such an extent that one must assume the Airline is not being run for long term profit. Contract negotiations are of no interest to Cathay Management. Have you not noticed STW? Back to Quizzling duties.
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You worry me Sam.
No one agrees with your "we should have accepted the TA" nonsense.
So you then write the same cowpat under the names Cowardlypilot and thecomedian.
You seem to like questions so here is one for you. Why have I still not seen your name under the HKAOA resignations list that you threatened to do a couple of months back?
No one agrees with your "we should have accepted the TA" nonsense.
So you then write the same cowpat under the names Cowardlypilot and thecomedian.
You seem to like questions so here is one for you. Why have I still not seen your name under the HKAOA resignations list that you threatened to do a couple of months back?
Dudes...operating crews in individual base areas for REAL onshore companies? Are you crazy? Why do you think they're being sued in every current jurisdiction? They blatantly screw employees by hiding behind the fact they're a HK company!! Case in point cancelling social security and retirement medicare in the USA for cabin crew AFTER the crews threw 10% of their salary at it..non recoverable of course. Good luck getting an AOC in australia after the jetstar debacle in HK or anywhere else for that matter..then rights to operate?..HA. All they ever had to do was leave all crew employed in HK(minus housing and expat benefits) and roster in and out of base ports like every other airline with a brain. Even Air New Guinea figured that out! These guys have no clue..no imagination..no fresh ideas or know how to compete...they've just been lucky enough to operate in a sheltered low tax environment with no rules about screwing staff. They will not survive any well funded competition and they know it...Dragon will be the recipient of the funding( cx freighters too..just look who the CMP program is going to) and CX will be gutted and just evaporate. How hard is it to pack a bag...leave your rented flat, drop off the rental car and exit the country...we don't really own that much anymore...it could be wound up over a weekend. Dragon gets 350's and our international money making slots...and this smoking hulk of a burned out top heavy slug sinks gently in the mud of the nullah along with all it's unsolved problems.
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...and honestly, at that point good riddance to it. This airline turned against it's loyal staff 25 years ago, and the relentless rush to the bottom is just about done. Time to turn out the lights.
