Long suffering 747 crew

[betpump5]

".....we can't get directly to the A350.....ITS IS A DISGRACE"

Its sentences like that xwind which gather little sympathy for those guys.

[Xwindldg]

Frank,

I take it from your non answer you did an early freighter command.

[Farman Biplane]

Frank,
If you take some rest after your delayed flight, wake up and find another delay that you will not be appropriately rested for, then you call in unfit, submit ASRF. If enough of the fleet had been doing this in the past, then you would not be in that situation now.

[Farman Biplane]

Aren't some of the long suffering seniors on the senior fleet there because they chose to accept a freighter extension to work past their contractual 55RA?

[PanZa-Lead]

I think what has caused all the angst against the freighter guys is that every new thread here or on the hkaoa board is hijacked by a freighter pilot say ' what about us'.
I think many of us have sympathy for the 747 pilots and their fight but when hijacking other threads it gets a bit boring.
When I was a very senior captain on the Airbus I tried to go across to the 747 but junior FOs were going right to left and no-one gave a damn then. So I just had to suck it up.

[cxorcist]

Originally Posted by Xwindldg

A lot of the 400 guys used to be on other types and they transferred to the 400. There was an opportunity a few years ago to go to the bus but I guess they turned that down too, holding out for something better. Seems unrealistic that they should be able to transfer onto whatever is the best fleet whenever they feel like it.

Uh, no! That's called seniority, and it's how the airline industry works. Fleets with better rosters are flown by the more senior crews unless THEY (the individual pilots) choose otherwise. Only at CX does a pilot get stuck on a fleet, for better or worse, with almost no chance of changing based on seniority.

[Auto_Flt_APOFF]

Originally Posted by cxorcist

Only at CX does a pilot get stuck on a fleet, for better or worse, with almost no chance of changing based on seniority.

And Emirates

[Xwindldg]

As someone wrote on the AOA forums, it's different in CX because we have common jet salary.

[catpac]

Xwndldg...you are a pest. Maybe one day you grow up and finally get to see what all this is about.

Quit the keyboard and get back to building your model A350 in CX livery.

[Xwindldg]

The oracle has spoken!

[Glass Half Empty]

the orifice has replied

[cxorcist]

Originally Posted by Xwindldg

As someone wrote on the AOA forums, it's different in CX because we have common jet salary.

UPS has a common jet "salary" (pay). Somehow, they manage to not lock their pilots on one type for their entire careers. They honor seniority and make billions at the same time.

[Mr Angry from Purley]

Whats the difference between a Cathy Pilot and a Jet Engine.
The jet engine occasionally stops whining

[catpac]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry from Purley

Whats the difference between a Cathy Pilot and a Jet Engine.
The jet engine occasionally stops whining

An engine that stop whining is a failed engine. So with your argument, CX pilots are working very well, as we are always whining. Thanks for your complement

[iceman50]

An engine that stop whining is a failed engine.

Not when it is shut down at the end of a flight!

[boxjockey]

Originally Posted by Mr Angry from Purley

Whats the difference between a Cathy Pilot and a Jet Engine.
The jet engine occasionally stops whining

You misspelled Cathay.

box

[megan]

He may be talking of Cathy the Pilot.

[Time2Win]

The freighter pilots seem to have a weird understanding of how cx operates. Completely out of tune with reality.

[Xwindldg]

Got to love the sense of entitlement being shown with each new tragic story of hardship. Stories of "7 sectors in the last 8 days" and 18-30 hour layovers. With heartbreaking and hard to imagine experiences like that I think these poor battered soldiers deserve only the best A350 trips on offer!

[kiwicx]

Originally Posted by Staggers

Interestingly so do KA and their transfers are seniority based.

What sort of fleet transfer do they have in place? 2,3,4,5 years on type before can swap to 330 or back to 320