FO / SO authority increase

[Sand Man]

To start the ball rolling:
FO:

• Decide if SO should have decision rights below

SO:

• Decide rest
• Decide if jackets are to be worn
• Decide if hats are on or off

[bm330]

Has Flt Ops really run out of anything useful to do that they need to dream up this crap?

[flyhardmo]

What are you guys (can I still say 'guys') on about? Is there a new NTC?

[never ready]

It would seem that management has suddenly realised (yawn) that the pilot pool experience level is severely depleted when considering future commands/upgrades. So now, it appears, they want line Captains to assist in line training the new generation.......by relinquishing Command authority.
"A greater degree of authority" for F/O's and S/O's - really.
This will be fun!

[pill]

All India flights to be crewed by FO/SO?

Be careful what you wish for.

[FlexibleResponse]

While we are at it, how about:

1. Junior staff decide the Directors and Senior Management pay and remuneration?
2. The number and type of new airliners we buy?

[Farman Biplane]

"This is the end of CX being a Captain's airline."..........that's funny! When exactly were we a Captains airline and how did this benefit said Captains? Very senior Captains stuck on the freighter whilst FO upgrades on pax fleet?
Directors airline perhaps?

[Yonosoy Marinero]

This is not a captain's airline anymore than it is an F/O or S/O's airline...

It is a management's airline. They micromanage every last freaking detail of every aspect of the operation.

But sure, let the SO tell me what rest I'll be taking... That'll be fun.

[BlunderBus]

You couldn't make this crap up..How do people not realize they're humiliating themselves so badly? Can they possibly be THAT stupid??
Don't answer that....

[Trafalgar]

This airline has well and truly "jumped the shark".

[Sam Ting Wong]

I will graciously allow the S/O to do the outside check in Toronto next winter.

[Trafalgar]

This reminds me of the time they gave the SO's the 'authority' to not make the bunks. That ended well.....

[Natca]

Originally Posted by Sam Ting Wong

I will graciously allow the S/O to do the outside check in Toronto next winter.

There better be an associated pay raise cause im not doing more for less than whats in my contract. 20k and above.

[Steve the Pirate]

I'm not sure how this can be done differently but traditionally, SOs gained more authority and responsibility when they became FOs and FOs gained more authority and responsibility when they became Captains. I don't mean to be disparaging but what else can SOs and FOs do that they don't already do (apart from perhaps the walkround for SOs, as pointed out by STW)?

STP

[beefy botham]

ISM to 'rock up' at despatch with standby fuel figure.

[Sand Man]

Soon there will be no one for the ISMs to talk to at dispatch. They already decide when to start work, cycling the seat belts don't seem to have any effect these days

[Arfur Dent]

"Management" are so out of touch with the way this Airline works, they probably think they are fine tuning a well oiled machine with this nonsense.
Captains will continue to make decisions in the time-honoured way they always have.

[Farman Biplane]

I have heard that SO/FO will be made "officially responsible" for reading and memorising the NOTAMs. The CN will be responsible for picking up said NOTAMs, choosing one randomly by numeral designator and requiring a word perfect regurgitation of the NOTAM.
Any wrong answers will result in CN getting to choose the rest and delegate any sub-par duties to the SO/FO.
Any correct answers will be suitably punished!
TTW

[The FUB]

sydneyman,

Do you mean the ISFD?

If yes, then no, that's mine.

[Sam Ting Wong]

The red cup is where I draw the line.