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- ATC clearance copy and read back (about 10 times)
- ATC read back with short instructions o advisories (about 10 times)
- short story on which you have to tell what is the main subject (about 5)
- And repeat a few sentences
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Not to rain on your parade- but you've just passed the company specific English Language test! You still have a panel interview and sim check, as well as the ICAO English test if youre successful. The skype thing was introduced as too many guys were being invited to HK for interview and not being up to ICAO level 4 standard.
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Not to rain on your parade- but you've just passed the company specific English Language test! You still have a panel interview and sim check, as well as the ICAO English test if youre successful. The skype thing was introduced as too many guys were being invited to HK for interview and not being up to ICAO level 4 standard.
If we pass this stage and get invited, do you know what are the tests about?
Do they take any knowledge tests as ATP subjects or something like that? to study in advance...
I know they take a sim test, any tips for that? I am applying for the non type rated and I have never flown the airplane before, not even on a sim ¡¡¡ (we dont have A330 sim in my country, if I wanted to rent a few hours to practice) so trying to gather as much information as I can.
Thank you very much you guys¡
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FWIW you will have to sit the ICAO again and from what I've seen over the last few years no South American has been awarded level 6. Overwhelmingly a level 4 is the norm. One Brit is level 4 and several level 5.
Pretty well every applicant holds some sort of ATP.
And not everyone gets through the interview process. Plenty of high quality applicants.
Pretty well every applicant holds some sort of ATP.
And not everyone gets through the interview process. Plenty of high quality applicants.
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“if I wanted to rent a few hours to practice”
I Gotta laugh , a few hours practice , I mean wtf, 10 hours? 20? .
If you suck at English or flunk the PR interview, aint no way on earth you will get in , no matter how good your 10 min sim check goes.
Same for all companies now. Its the mind set they interested in . Not the right stuff. If you have this, then no need to practice. Right?
I Gotta laugh , a few hours practice , I mean wtf, 10 hours? 20? .
If you suck at English or flunk the PR interview, aint no way on earth you will get in , no matter how good your 10 min sim check goes.
Same for all companies now. Its the mind set they interested in . Not the right stuff. If you have this, then no need to practice. Right?
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You're the joker. Thinking you're hired because you passed an ELP test.
And he's right, English Proficiency at HKA is a hot topic, and whatever you hold right now will get shot to pieces in the HKA test.
Better bone up on your English. And lose the accent.
And he's right, English Proficiency at HKA is a hot topic, and whatever you hold right now will get shot to pieces in the HKA test.
Better bone up on your English. And lose the accent.
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“if I wanted to rent a few hours to practice”
I Gotta laugh , a few hours practice , I mean wtf, 10 hours? 20? .
If you suck at English or flunk the PR interview, aint no way on earth you will get in , no matter how good your 10 min sim check goes.
Same for all companies now. Its the mind set they interested in . Not the right stuff. If you have this, then no need to practice. Right?
I Gotta laugh , a few hours practice , I mean wtf, 10 hours? 20? .
If you suck at English or flunk the PR interview, aint no way on earth you will get in , no matter how good your 10 min sim check goes.
Same for all companies now. Its the mind set they interested in . Not the right stuff. If you have this, then no need to practice. Right?
It it’s actually very rude to mock someone up without knowing the person.
Even if it were the case where the applicant it is not so good at english, why do you think it’s ok to spread all your bitter personality around when nobody actually cares about what you think?
Having said that, good luck to everyone, and hopefully life gets better soon for those negative ones that posted last, pretending they know it all.
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[QUOTE=Pajarito;10228425]
Even if it were the case where the applicant it is not so good at english, why do you think it’s ok to spread all your bitter personality around when nobody actually cares about what you think?
I think what Krone was trying to emphasise is that HKA might care how good your english is.
I dont think he was attacking you personally and yes ridiculing a non-native english speaker is not on - but if your future employer does not think you are up to standard linguistically then they really will not care if that hurts your feelings. You simply will not get the job.
I am speaking generally not specifically about you.
Even if it were the case where the applicant it is not so good at english, why do you think it’s ok to spread all your bitter personality around when nobody actually cares about what you think?
I think what Krone was trying to emphasise is that HKA might care how good your english is.
I dont think he was attacking you personally and yes ridiculing a non-native english speaker is not on - but if your future employer does not think you are up to standard linguistically then they really will not care if that hurts your feelings. You simply will not get the job.
I am speaking generally not specifically about you.
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[QUOTE=SW1;10228905]
Even if it were the case where the applicant it is not so good at english, why do you think it’s ok to spread all your bitter personality around when nobody actually cares about what you think?
I think what Krone was trying to emphasise is that HKA might care how good your english is.
I dont think he was attacking you personally and yes ridiculing a non-native english speaker is not on - but if your future employer does not think you are up to standard linguistically then they really will not care if that hurts your feelings. You simply will not get the job.
I am speaking generally not specifically about you.
I understad, but there are many ways to say things, and if you are just not nice at all for no reason, something is just not right in your life. Hope it gets better honestly..
I am talking generally, not specifically about Krone or you.
PD: Don´t be rude people, the world already has tons of those
Happy landings
Even if it were the case where the applicant it is not so good at english, why do you think it’s ok to spread all your bitter personality around when nobody actually cares about what you think?
I think what Krone was trying to emphasise is that HKA might care how good your english is.
I dont think he was attacking you personally and yes ridiculing a non-native english speaker is not on - but if your future employer does not think you are up to standard linguistically then they really will not care if that hurts your feelings. You simply will not get the job.
I am speaking generally not specifically about you.
I am talking generally, not specifically about Krone or you.
PD: Don´t be rude people, the world already has tons of those
Happy landings
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just ask the moderator to ban him from fragrant harbour..we dont need such people around here
I understad, but there are many ways to say things, and if you are just not nice at all for no reason, something is just not right in your life. Hope it gets better honestly..
I am talking generally, not specifically about Krone or you.
PD: Don´t be rude people, the world already has tons of those
Happy landings
I am talking generally, not specifically about Krone or you.
PD: Don´t be rude people, the world already has tons of those
Happy landings
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Can you please tell me why do you assume I don’t speak english? I have actually lived in the US and spanish and english are not even the only lenguages I speak.
It it’s actually very rude to mock someone up without knowing the person.
Even if it were the case where the applicant it is not so good at english, why do you think it’s ok to spread all your bitter personality around when nobody actually cares about what you think?
Re-read my post. Its not aimed at you, don't shoot the messenger. And please , you may need to re read again, if you are ICAO level 4 @ Lenguages
BTW, I've lived in many countries, it doesn't necessarily qualify me as fluent in their language .
Bitter Personality? LOL, I remember the days when there was no Sim practising for an interview, no tutoring or online help with the assessment process. It was you, your personality, and what you could bring to the table. This may not sit well with the new millennial brigade, but this is a forum and I will give my point of view.
If my views offend you, then I can't help.
HHChan, may I ask where exactly you would ban me too?
Are my posts so vitreolic that they offend you, that you ask another to have me banned and that will solve all you issues? Pathetic.
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Dear Poster.
Re-read my post. Its not aimed at you, don't shoot the messenger. And please , you may need to re read again, if you are ICAO level 4 @ Lenguages
BTW, I've lived in many countries, it doesn't necessarily qualify me as fluent in their language .
Bitter Personality? LOL, I remember the days when there was no Sim practising for an interview, no tutoring or online help with the assessment process. It was you, your personality, and what you could bring to the table. This may not sit well with the new millennial brigade, but this is a forum and I will give my point of view.
If my views offend you, then I can't help.
HHChan, may I ask where exactly you would ban me too?
Are my posts so vitreolic that they offend you, that you ask another to have me banned and that will solve all you issues? Pathetic.
Re-read my post. Its not aimed at you, don't shoot the messenger. And please , you may need to re read again, if you are ICAO level 4 @ Lenguages
BTW, I've lived in many countries, it doesn't necessarily qualify me as fluent in their language .
Bitter Personality? LOL, I remember the days when there was no Sim practising for an interview, no tutoring or online help with the assessment process. It was you, your personality, and what you could bring to the table. This may not sit well with the new millennial brigade, but this is a forum and I will give my point of view.
If my views offend you, then I can't help.
HHChan, may I ask where exactly you would ban me too?
Are my posts so vitreolic that they offend you, that you ask another to have me banned and that will solve all you issues? Pathetic.
Do watch what you say here . You know what I mean. Its an open forum and not many are as well read or conversant as you. GIve others a breather...
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Are you guys direct applying or are you going through a contractor? also are for NTR are you being offered a320 only or a330?
what is the application process like as well?
what is the application process like as well?
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Going through agency might be better as HR would probably be more responsive to them. 320 vs 330 depends on amount and type of experience. If you already have wide body experience, you’ll probably get 330.
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The demise of HNA could well trigger the great chinese domino wall to start its fall ....