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[QUOTE=bringbackthe80s;9700391]Thanks flyer.
And also from reading your posts, if you pass the selection you are not given a permanent contract?? What they offer is a temporary contract?
The pay scale is an outdated one. Pm me if you need further.
And also from reading your posts, if you pass the selection you are not given a permanent contract?? What they offer is a temporary contract?
The pay scale is an outdated one. Pm me if you need further.
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Bringbackthe80s,
The contracts are 3 years in length at this point. It is possible to be offered a permanent contract within the 3 years, but generally this would be at the end of the first contract. But what does a permanent contract really mean? Not much in my opinion, the conditions for termination or resigning would be the same except that you would not have to worry about renewing the contract every 3 years. Note of course that to gain permanent residency in Hong Kong requires that you have lived in HK for 7 years: is it worth? I am not so sure. But it is a goal for some.
But HKA doesn't hold much water in my mind, an instructor that I knew there from the Philippines was released following an incidence in which he was stuck in the Philippines due to a Typhoon last year. He took the initiative to call the company to tell them that he would be unable to make it to work on time and could they make the flight another day or give him a later flight. Well, he thought that his years of service there on a permanent contract gave him some more latitude than anyone else since he had provided many favors to the company in the past. So, the company ask him to come in as soon as he could no problem everything would be ok or so he thought. Skipping to the end, he was offered a 1 year probationary type contract and I believe reduction in pay for 2 or 3 months. He balked at the idea and they promptly released him. Now, to be an instructor, you have to be pretty squeaky clean, so I don't think there were other additional incidence that added to his termination.
You are always one breathe seemly from running a foul some aspect of the system at HKA that can get you released. So, when you go, keep your head down and stay off the radar. The company is not your friend and they will prove it to you when you run a foul the system.
So, I wouldn't worry about a permanent verses renewable contract. There's hardly a difference.
The contracts are 3 years in length at this point. It is possible to be offered a permanent contract within the 3 years, but generally this would be at the end of the first contract. But what does a permanent contract really mean? Not much in my opinion, the conditions for termination or resigning would be the same except that you would not have to worry about renewing the contract every 3 years. Note of course that to gain permanent residency in Hong Kong requires that you have lived in HK for 7 years: is it worth? I am not so sure. But it is a goal for some.
But HKA doesn't hold much water in my mind, an instructor that I knew there from the Philippines was released following an incidence in which he was stuck in the Philippines due to a Typhoon last year. He took the initiative to call the company to tell them that he would be unable to make it to work on time and could they make the flight another day or give him a later flight. Well, he thought that his years of service there on a permanent contract gave him some more latitude than anyone else since he had provided many favors to the company in the past. So, the company ask him to come in as soon as he could no problem everything would be ok or so he thought. Skipping to the end, he was offered a 1 year probationary type contract and I believe reduction in pay for 2 or 3 months. He balked at the idea and they promptly released him. Now, to be an instructor, you have to be pretty squeaky clean, so I don't think there were other additional incidence that added to his termination.
You are always one breathe seemly from running a foul some aspect of the system at HKA that can get you released. So, when you go, keep your head down and stay off the radar. The company is not your friend and they will prove it to you when you run a foul the system.
So, I wouldn't worry about a permanent verses renewable contract. There's hardly a difference.
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Eventually CX will shrivel and become a much smaller and inconsequential, semi-failed airline on the coast of China. HKA will certainly, with their money and political support, kick CX's collective arse. Only a matter of time.
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Hong Kong Airlines A350 Heathrow CAPA 28062017
Is commuting possible??
Anyone on the A330 able to comment on the possibility of commuting? I have an interview for the A330 but would only do it if I could get at least 8 consecutive days off a month. Thanks for any reply.
I would he sceptical of those roster options. Using annual leave days to get the same number of days off, maybe 2 more. Crazy. Guaranteed they will still get the 900 hours out of you
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From this flyer it seems to me like they are going through a LOT of trouble just to come up with some commuting looking option but without really increasing days off/salary..
Surely by increasing days off (8?!) and salary they'll get many more applicants and it'll be cheaper and easier for the company too in the long run, no?
Surely by increasing days off (8?!) and salary they'll get many more applicants and it'll be cheaper and easier for the company too in the long run, no?
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