Cathay Dragon interview.
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From: Polar Route
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From: Polar Route
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Those who can get on a career airline seniority do not apply to KA/CX anymore. The only pilots who apply now, are those who cannot get on those lists. We are now getting the leftovers, either in skills, values/beliefs or cognitive abilities. No point on trying to enlighten the challenged ones. Those who get it, don't even consider applying to us. Those who do not, will never get it, no matter how much time, effort, or information you provide.
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I've been gone for a while now. Of course I come back from time to time to read what is going on back in HK. From the objective viewpoint of it not really mattering anymore, I must say that the degradation of conditions, both in CX and HK in general is quite shocking. It seems to me that the "boiling frog" syndrome is nearing the end game. The frog is nearly cooked, and of course...many of the frogs don't realise it. Quite sad what has become of what was once the best job in aviation. It seems only the name remains. No happy ending here it appears. Good luck everyone.
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If given the considerable information on this forum you need to pose that question, you are indeed the person KA desires. Anyone more intelligent, would know the answer.
This is a job for a Iranian or perhaps North Korean who is trying to get the right to live in a better place and will do anything for that. It is not a position for anyone whose second option is well.. anything else.
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Freeman, it was a statement not a question. RTFF.
Given that they now only want 1500hrs and that can be in anything, including SEP, then for the right person it is a great opportunity to get a free type rating with no bond.
Given that they now only want 1500hrs and that can be in anything, including SEP, then for the right person it is a great opportunity to get a free type rating with no bond.
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Freeman, we all understand your comment. Sadly, there is always a subset of people in aviation who will happily accept almost any terms just to get a "shiny jet rating". CX long ago figured that out, and as long as they are willing to accept all that comes with employing those types, then there is no stopping it. CX can hire from ANY nationality group around the world, therefore always being able to find a yet lower bottom to the bottomless barrel. Proper airlines in your home countries can generally only hire their own nationals, which right there limits the abuse their management can inflict on their staff. That and proper labour laws. CX is now an airline of inexperienced and desperate mercenaries and locals. Not exactly the formula for a stable and lucrative career. Most who can have already left or soon will. You will be left with a very different company in just a few more years. If you can leave, do so before all other opportunities have faded away.
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the interview is a few technical questions and a few hr questions with a sim ride. You will have to convince them you can survive on COS18. There are a few posts on how crap the contract is already but to put it into perspective we needed 64 DEFO’s this year, we got 6 or so who said yes despite interviewing (or offering interviews for many). Of the few who signed on two left before training was complete and the others are realising what they’ve signed on for.. if you go sick or take leave (mandatory 6 weeks per year) or the schedule gets cut you can lose 40% of your pay each month. Only 60k is guaranteed, if you work a full month you might get 100k ( the same as a standard contract FO who works less than you). There are no quick commands any more, we have >40 FO’s ready to do command but no courses on the horizon because we can’t release any FO’s to upgrade as no one is joining on this POS18 contract.
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the interview is a few technical questions and a few hr questions with a sim ride. You will have to convince them you can survive on COS18. There are a few posts on how crap the contract is already but to put it into perspective we needed 64 DEFO’s this year, we got 6 or so who said yes despite interviewing (or offering interviews for many). Of the few who signed on two left before training was complete and the others are realising what they’ve signed on for.. if you go sick or take leave or the schedule gets cut you can lose 40% of your pay each month. Only 60k is guaranteed, if you work a full month you might get 100k ( the same as a standard contract FO who works less than you). There are no quick commands any more, we have >40 FO’s ready to do command but no courses on the horizon because we can’t release any FO’s to upgrade as no one is joining on this POS18 contract.
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thank you for the info. yes I have been informed that the upgrade is slow due to seniority. however in big airlines that s normal. 3 to 5 years is normal.
is there any technical written test ?
any other feedback is much appreciated
DE FO non Typer
is there any technical written test ?
any other feedback is much appreciated
DE FO non Typer
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A couple of things though, first stay away from the whinny malcontent usual suspects. Buy a share in an old junk with some mates and spend your days off out at Rocky Harbour. So many good times to be had and so many good friends to be made. Then maybe after a few years, with a valuable type rating in hand the world is your oyster.
Don't die wondering what if....
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Can I ask is it because the package does not allow a high living standard in HKG?
Problem with TPE is you are bottom of the staff travel seniority and it is a favourite travel destination of senior local colleagues. I’d recommend living somewhere more developing like Cambodia or the Phillipines.
Due an uncertain future we were told KA is not recruiting in the future and is hoping people leave due excess crew . What are you being told ? A three year wait for command ?
Problem with TPE is you are bottom of the staff travel seniority and it is a favourite travel destination of senior local colleagues. I’d recommend living somewhere more developing like Cambodia or the Phillipines.
Due an uncertain future we were told KA is not recruiting in the future and is hoping people leave due excess crew . What are you being told ? A three year wait for command ?